There's a few of us. Gotta earn the beers.
It's 2025 Is an Emtb in your near future?
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There's a few of us. Gotta earn the beers.
Yeah. I don’t ride to smell the roses. The vast majority of people get into biking to justify eating & drinking more. Many of us enjoy it beyond that, sure. But how many people would ride bikes if they made you fatter & less healthy?
At this point I still would, but I would never have gotten into it in the first place 😜
Captain Brainstorm
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I got into this at first because it’s more fun than jogging. Get a workout with the fringe benefits of going fast, hitting some jumps, and getting a shot of adrenaline. Its the perfect workout. Especially as I get older, its even more important to staying in shape, and staying in shape requires a little pain and sweat. Oh, and in addition to suffering on every ride, i also scare the shit out of myself on every ride.
johnbryanpeters
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I like to ride long distances and sort of meld into the experience. Motorcycles disguised as bicycles do not improve the experience and increase wear and erosion on the trails.
I’m sure this won’t be well received, but it’s out there.
Bikes are fun.
Some e-bikes are ok
Expand on this as I think your saying common sense says emtbs (class1) cause more? How?
This is just the same tired uniformed and dumb comment that you like to keep repeating. Your opinion sucks 😂
He is right, there should be weight limits on trails. Maybe workout pounds per square inch ground pressure numbers for trail protection. This will also keep all the fat guys out of the woods. Something like is you weigh 170pounds, you have to ride 2.5 inch wide tires on a 35 lb bike. If you are 200lbs on a 35 lb bike, hey you fat bike size tires. This could also be great way to get gravel bikes out of the woods….. and horses got to go…..
Fat Trout
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I respectfully disagree. If anything I have found that in situations I might have normally "spun" a tire a little in something soft or loose on my analog bike I don't do so on the ebike as I keep better continual momentum. This is my actual direct experience as a rider of both and that is not debatable.
First of all, everything is debatable. Secondly, I don't think e-bikes do any more damage than regular bikes generally speaking, unless you account for the extra riding. A good local example is Glen Park, even though it's not NJ. I know many people that do five laps on a regular bike, and I've heard people do ten on an e-bike. In that scenario, e-bikes do twice the "damage" of a regular bike. How much damage is done per lap on a bicycle is definitely debatable, but I feel like you can't really argue against this. That said, I'm pro e-bike, and think you should just run what you brung.
Fat Trout
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Of course everything is debatable...that was just sarcasm in my reply to the post suggesting common sense made it not even debatable 😉
frug
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Motorcycles? Erosion? Pain Cave Bros? Oh my!
You guys like to suffer (we are all very proud of you; and your mom is too)? Prove it. Go back to rigid frames. While you’re at it ditch your dropper posts and knobby tires. Swap to a 10-speed drivetrain. All of these parts make riding on trails easier. And you’re a dirty motorcycling cheater if you use any of them. Every new advancement has its naysayers.
Same comment to the motorcycle crowd. Most of the parts on your bikes are trickle-down technologies from the moto industry. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
And erosion… Arguably race organizers (or even group rides) do more damage to trails than any class 1 eMTB. Stop all of that organization, you monsters! In fact, let’s just make the trails out of unicorn horns and baby’s tears. Don’t touch them. Don’t even look at them. If the argument is that someone on an eMTB can ride longer thus causing more erosion then we should also be against advancing someone’s fitness. Trails are made to be used.
Anyway, this is all good fun. You guys keep saying more things. I’m making more popcorn.
You guys like to suffer (we are all very proud of you; and your mom is too)? Prove it. Go back to rigid frames. While you’re at it ditch your dropper posts and knobby tires. Swap to a 10-speed drivetrain. All of these parts make riding on trails easier. And you’re a dirty motorcycling cheater if you use any of them. Every new advancement has its naysayers.
Same comment to the motorcycle crowd. Most of the parts on your bikes are trickle-down technologies from the moto industry. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
And erosion… Arguably race organizers (or even group rides) do more damage to trails than any class 1 eMTB. Stop all of that organization, you monsters! In fact, let’s just make the trails out of unicorn horns and baby’s tears. Don’t touch them. Don’t even look at them. If the argument is that someone on an eMTB can ride longer thus causing more erosion then we should also be against advancing someone’s fitness. Trails are made to be used.
Anyway, this is all good fun. You guys keep saying more things. I’m making more popcorn.
Captain Brainstorm
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If you want to get technical, all those advancements just help me go downhill faster and make my bike heavier, a heavier bike that I still have to pedal myself. I believe the proper analog for e-bikes is training wheels.
You’re the perfect example of this. The year prior to getting an ebike you did zero damage to trails as you stopped riding entirely. Now you ride again. Obviously riding trails does more damage than not riding.
Jay mentioned every ebike ride he does is 3 hours long which is far more than he was doing without. And his mph is certainly higher.
It’s a multiplier. That’s what I mean by common sense.
I do not believe 10 miles on an e-bikes does any more damage than 10 miles on an Amish bike. But your 50 miles does more damage than my 20 miles.
I will also gladly cede the counter that more TM gets done due to e-bikes. I won’t argue that at all, as Jay points out above.
frug
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Amish ride ebikes. Check your facts.
frug
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So you ride a rigid 26er?