Clean Start

M3Tim said:
Pat,

Buy this:

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/road_bikes/ultegra-roadbikes-lechampcfdi2-ltd.htm

Strip the Di2, put your old stuff on it and sell it for $1200. Everyone is happy.😀
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Roadie said:
Buy the MotoB as suggested above but get it in a frame size big enough for V. Put the DI2 on the Super Six and then put the 105 stuff from your Caad on the MotoB frame for V. You and V both get bikes!
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No terrible - he's gotta be a 58? more legs than body.
 
fidodie said:
Can't stop technology - I'm of the mindset that all bikes will go electronic - and it will end up being less expensive/more reliable than mechanical in the long run.
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Already there. The mechanical Alfine 11 is plagued by super precise cable pull, using a system that was not originally designed with that in mind. Makes an 11 speed derailleur drivetrain look tolerant, by comparison. The Di2 model has absolutely none of the same issues with skipping/mis-engaging gears...perfect every time.

IMO, the only reasons to go mechanical currently are 1) cost, and 2) specific use (ie, touring away from outlets for extended periods). The performance is a no brainier, and the battery lasts at least a month, even with absurd levels of use.
 
Karate Monkey said:
Already there. The mechanical Alfine 11 is plagued by super precise cable pull, using a system that was not originally designed with that in mind. Makes an 11 speed derailleur drivetrain look tolerant, by comparison. The Di2 model has absolutely none of the same issues with skipping/mis-engaging gears...perfect every time.

IMO, the only reasons to go mechanical currently are 1) cost, and 2) specific use (ie, touring away from outlets for extended periods). The performance is a no brainier, and the battery lasts at least a month, even with absurd levels of use.
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think of all the things electronics can do -
  • control speed of shift
  • overshift, then return
  • dynamic trim based on current chainline, compensate for new/worn chain (maybe start to call for a new chain in the future, saving expensive items like eagle cassettes)
  • decide how many cogs based on holding the shifter (and how long it needs to be held)
  • shifter throw, and resistance independent of any cable or derailleur
  • different shifting paradigms based on programming/preference (bike, moto, f1, sram, shimano)
  • automatic transmission with a few sensors
  • button shifters (ie the end of aero bars)
i'm expecting more of a gesture interface for the mtb. maybe swipe the thumb over a sensor that can be mounted near/on the grip.
one less thing to break in a crash. direction of swipe would dictate shift - swipe and hold for multiples? it could use either hand, or both in combo.

i like it.
 
fidodie said:
think of all the things electronics can do -
  • control speed of shift
  • overshift, then return
  • dynamic trim based on current chainline, compensate for new/worn chain (maybe start to call for a new chain in the future, saving expensive items like eagle cassettes)
  • decide how many cogs based on holding the shifter (and how long it needs to be held)
  • shifter throw, and resistance independent of any cable or derailleur
  • different shifting paradigms based on programming/preference (bike, moto, f1, sram, shimano)
  • automatic transmission with a few sensors
  • button shifters (ie the end of aero bars)
i'm expecting more of a gesture interface for the mtb. maybe swipe the thumb over a sensor that can be mounted near/on the grip.
one less thing to break in a crash. direction of swipe would dictate shift - swipe and hold for multiples? it could use either hand, or both in combo.

i like it.
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Most of these are answers to questions that weren't problems and people weren't asking. I think eventually it will go to electronic but the cost just isn't worth it given that mechanical is pretty damn good. I recently switched back to shimano on my road bikes and the shifting is basically perfect.
 
Karate Monkey said:
The performance is a no brainier, and the battery lasts at least a month, even with absurd levels of use.
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Either read or someone told me the battery is good for about 40 hrs? I don't push it and charge mine about every 20 hrs, usually 2 weeks, so dont know how long it really lasts.
 
rick81721 said:
Either read or someone told me the battery is good for about 40 hrs? I don't push it and charge mine about every 20 hrs, usually 2 weeks, so dont know how long it really lasts.
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Maybe they're shifting their front derailleur all the time? Drains the system way faster than the rear. :shrug:
 
stb222 said:
Most of these are answers to questions that weren't problems and people weren't asking. I think eventually it will go to electronic but the cost just isn't worth it given that mechanical is pretty damn good. I recently switched back to shimano on my road bikes and the shifting is basically perfect.
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it really isn't worth the cost - but at some point, ya gotta think a single stepper motor programmed to do 7-12 speed shifting on a couple different cages will
be cheaper than dealing with all the different ratio shifters?? and when they go to 13 cogs, it is just some number that gets updated when the firmware is pushed.

etap looks really interesting, the more i read about it. but that is even more $$$....
 
One week post cleanse diet - it really wasn't a diet, let's call it a regime.

This mornings weight: 168.9
Post ride, pre-reading session. Drank a bunch of water, and i went to sleep last night at 170.5.
So after the 4th of july pig-out (literally, pulled pork and ribs all day) - i'm pretty happy with +1lb from last weeks low.

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Timing was good coming off the regime into Halter's 31/31 contest. I have two MTB rides and 4 road rides through this morning. About 10.3 hours of saddle time.
This is already more than last July, and my pathetic april/may/june numbers totaled together might be beaten by Monday.

the legs feel decent. I'm going to need to start going up some hills soon.

I have Saturday morning open if a group ride opens up (hint)
 
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Veloviewer claims we are currently a draw. I don't think @Robin has updated there in awhile.....

Robin 6 2 (33%) 2 (33%) 2 (33%)

that is 2 ahead, 2 behind, 2 draw. I'll check if i set any PRs on those climbs (which won't be soon)
 
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fidodie said:
Elbow.
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rick81721 said:
Hey I only tried that once like 3 years (and 15 lbs) ago. Will be back in stinkin NJ Saturday, ready for some dirt and hills
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WTF did you guys do, walk up the climb? I only had one attempt, 51 miles into a 107 solo day Wonder what I could do on a one hour pleasure cruise like you guys did. Crazy I am almost 3 min off the KOM.

Either way, you freaking crushed @rick81721

Fiddlers
mtbNJ.com
Rank Name Date Speed HR Power VAM Time
Chris Compton Jul 19, 2015 8.6mi/h - 233W 1,120.9 10:02
2 Kevin McElwain Nov 13, 2013 8.4mi/h - 273W 1,091.9 10:18
3 Christopher Columbo Sep 22, 2013 7.9mi/h 163bpm 244W 1,031.8 10:54
4 christian kubick May 5, 2012 7.9mi/h 162bpm 277W 1,027.1 10:57
5 Jeremy Short May 10, 2013 7.7mi/h 166bpm 271W
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1,005.6 11:11
6 Christopher Michaloski Sep 22, 2013 7.6mi/h 174bpm 239W 993.8 11:19
7 Jeff Mandell Sep 22, 2013 7.6mi/h 151bpm 290W
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990.9 11:21
8 diego gonzalez Sep 25, 2016 7.5mi/h - 239W 985.1 11:25
9 Norm Zurawski Aug 1, 2009 7.1mi/h 165bpm 241W 930.7 12:05
10 Jim Vreeland Sep 16, 2013 6.5mi/h 155bpm 259W
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847.7 13:16
11 patrick mariani Jul 6, 2013 6.4mi/h - 234W 835.1 13:28
12 Tom Gockel Sep 29, 2012 6.1mi/h 136bpm 197W 801.4 14:02
13 Rick Robinson Nov 16, 2013 5.9mi/h 162bpm 180W 771.2 14:35


He has you on Iron Bridge (mainly because you didn't ride it) but I am still 2 min off the KOM, WTF. But never rode it not in a solo century+.
mtbNJ.com
Kevin McElwain Aug 7, 2014 8.1mi/h - 301W 1,252.3 7:15
2 Chris Compton Jul 19, 2015 7.6mi/h - 232W 1,186.8 7:39
3 Jeremy Short Aug 11, 2014 7.5mi/h 163bpm 311W
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1,166.5 7:47
4 Norm Zurawski Aug 1, 2009 7.0mi/h 171bpm 269W 1,087.3 8:21
5 Christopher Columbo Aug 16, 2012 6.4mi/h 162bpm 215W 997.7 9:06
5 Jaime Castrillon Mar 19, 2017 6.4mi/h 168bpm 260W 997.7 9:06
7 Jeff Mandell Sep 22, 2013 6.3mi/h 146bpm 289W
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976.3 9:18
8 diego gonzalez Dec 31, 2016 6.0mi/h - 238W 924.9 9:49
9 Jim Vreeland Sep 16, 2013 5.8mi/h 151bpm 245W
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898.9 10:06
10 Rick Robinson Jun 25, 2015 5.6mi/h - 183W 866.1 10:29
11 David TheyCallMeTurbo Sep 25, 2016 4.2mi/h 159bpm 219W 647.0 14:02
12 Tony Fontana Sep 25, 2016 4.1mi/h - 176W 640.9 14:10
13 Tom Gockel Oct 7, 2012 4.1mi/h 143bpm 206W 634.2 14:19
14 Christopher Michaloski Sep 22, 2013 4.0mi/h 170bpm 218W 625.4 14:31
15 Dima Kurki Aug 15, 2015 3.8mi/h 166bpm 242W
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596.7 15:13

 
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