Who wants to build a Bike Park?

dmkalemba said:
There is property in Kinnelon called the Waughaw Mountain Greenway that is made up of Kinnelon and County owned land, that has been described as:
"Currently this 306-acre park is undeveloped. The future use will be for an Off-road Bicycling and hiking trail system. Future access to and parking for the park will be developed off of Brook Valley Road, Kinnelon Borough" on the County website.

I had reached out to MCPC a couple of years ago and had been told that they plan on hiring a company to develop the mtb trails. they recently purchased another tract of land that will act as an access road/parking area. I often pop into this property and ride the quad trails and old woods roads, last week it appears that an earth mover had gone over some of the quad trails and removed some big downed trees. I reached out this week to the MCPC (maybe the wrong people) to see whats up. no answer yet, but i have offered up the mtb community in general and suggested partnership with JORBA... this place could be fun and would take pressure off of the Tourne.
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Interesting, let me check this out.
 
Norm said:
I am willing to do it old school, manual labor, if this is something that is allowed to be built. I have a whole team of people that can occasionally lend a hand.
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Norm said:
I am willing to do it old school, manual labor, if this is something that is allowed to be built. I have a whole team of people that can occasionally lend a hand.
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I'm not waiting on mechanized and starting it old school. The Paiute reroute is short. After that we have a new trail Tapawingo, to layout. we have the corridor but need to flag and finalize it. Then pin the trail and start building. At the same time we need to firm up the connections from Jungle to the old Hewitt Butler trail.
 
dmkalemba said:
There is property in Kinnelon called the Waughaw Mountain Greenway that is made up of Kinnelon and County owned land, that has been described as:
"Currently this 306-acre park is undeveloped. The future use will be for an Off-road Bicycling and hiking trail system. Future access to and parking for the park will be developed off of Brook Valley Road, Kinnelon Borough" on the County website.

I had reached out to MCPC a couple of years ago and had been told that they plan on hiring a company to develop the mtb trails. they recently purchased another tract of land that will act as an access road/parking area. I often pop into this property and ride the quad trails and old woods roads, last week it appears that an earth mover had gone over some of the quad trails and removed some big downed trees. I reached out this week to the MCPC (maybe the wrong people) to see whats up. no answer yet, but i have offered up the mtb community in general and suggested partnership with JORBA... this place could be fun and would take pressure off of the Tourne.
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This is literally in my backyard. I spent my yoot in those woods hunting, shooting, and tearing around on ATV's. Most of the trails on Pyramid Mountain that are now owned by county are trails that me and my rag-tag group of friends built with our ATC's and dirt bikes. I always thought that section would be good to build trails on, so many places to make natural features and interesting lines. When do we start digging?
 
RIDEr said:
How about a Rays in NJ? With the unfortunate closures of many stores I think converting a KMart 🙂cough) on eagle rock and prospect in west Orange is a great place.

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Ray's Indoor Bike Park | Cleveland, OH

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I vote for the recently closed Sears on Rt 1 in New Brunswick. The building is plenty big enough and it’s got plenty of room in the back parking lot for an outdoor pump track.
The On the Border Mexican restaurant on the property don’t hurt either...
 
Kind of random but I've had dreams of building a dual slalom track on the grassy slope just above the pond at Sourlands. Something similar to the flow lines at High Bridge but side by side for racing. Hold a semi-regular race series with a small entry fee and proceeds go to JORBA. Pending permission, I could do it all old school by hand but pro builders with machines would be ideal. Recent popularity of Sourlands with hikers makes this idea less desirable though.
 
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gmb3 said:
Kind of random but I've had dreams of building a dual slalom track on the grassy slope just above the pond at Sourlands. Something similar to the flow lines at High Bridge but side by side for racing. Hold a semi-regular race series with a small entry fee and proceeds go to JORBA. Pending permission, I could do it all old school by hand but pro builders with machines would be ideal. Recent popularity of Sourlands with hikers makes this idea less desirable though.
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Slalom?!? Ew, really showing your age there. Ouch. 😀
 
Ashcor said:
I thought Pyramid Mountain was designated hiking only?
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It is, but the property in question borders it, so there will need to be clear signage that the new trails are dual-use (if this whole thing even happens). The park officials at Pyramid/Tripod get hostile if they catch you biking back there. Oh, and 30yrs ago we built the pond back there also.
 
what @pooriggy doesnt know if that the BMX community has been doing this forever, building world class trail on private land. For a few reasons, Allentown, PA and Bethlehem, PA have some the most well known jumps anywhere in the world. All built illegally, on land they didn't own. One major BMX success story is Catty Woods and Posh, which have agreements with the land owners to do whatever they want as long as they have insurance. Posh just celebrated 25 years too:



If a bunch of bmx'ers can figure out, surely someone here can.
 
pooriggy said:
In theory yes, however it is very difficult to get this type of trail building perfect the 1st time. After reading up on building these types of flow trails the builder is always going back to fix, modify and perfect lines.

I have heard the contractor who built High Bridge is going back to fine tune the trail.
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That’s Justin Lax
 
stb222 said:
That’s Justin Lax
Yes, stuff built with dirt is constant work and TBH, it’s more than one or two times a year. To make dirt features a success, you need constant maintenance and care.
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exactly, that's why KT has a core of full time staff. Also, you'll note none of the examples are in NJ most likely for reasons aforementioned about needing to spend 200K in legal defense every time someone skins a knee.....
 
Ashcor said:
exactly, that's why KT has a core of full time staff. Also, you'll note none of the examples are in NJ most likely for reasons aforementioned about needing to spend 200K in legal defense every time someone skins a knee.....
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How much can I get for this?
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