This Thread Blows - C19 and beyond

Right. And NYC has 17,500 dead out of an estimated 1.7M infected. Which is 1% and why I think 0.3 is overoptimistic, though I think it will be below 1%. (std disclaimer - I don't know what I don't know about infectious disease. ! just like numbers).

Plenty of those infected in FL just haven't died yet.

Numbers for NY state:

24,500 dead/3,200,000 infected = 0.76%

Most of the infected in FL had no symptoms, they aren't dying. We will see in the next week if the large increase in new cases results in an increase in deaths.
 
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3× deaths by when? End of 2020? 2021?

Real death rate will be less than 0.3%. Based on antibody testing, FL total infected right now is about 1MM. Like Monkey Soup said, flu averages 0.1% - with vaccines.

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eyeballing the cdc model of flu deaths, the average of the mean of the 95% confidence interval over the last 10 years is ~40,000/yr

Looking at the C19 deaths from CDC - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/us-cases-deaths.html

Count will go over 120,000 today.

175,00+ by the end of September, since i'm supposed to make a prediction??? which will be about 3x the worst mean flu deaths (2018)

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The flu is not a single virus - the "vaccine" is not a vaccine like MMR. It is a temporary immunization against the strains they modeled as most likely
to spread. If they "miss" on the prediction, more people get sick.

Estimated vaccine coverage is ~50% overall, with ~65% in the 65+ age bracket. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/fluvaxview/coverage-1819estimates.htm
That leaves quite a few unvaccinated, and the efficacy is sketchy as people get older - reduced immune response in general. (that is in one of these cdc statements)

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i've upped my comfort level to riding with a group rather than just a couple people - but we really do stay away from each other.
I can't keep up anyway, so i use that as my distancing strategy.
Masks inside public spaces - required, and not a problem.
Not planning on going out to eat yet.
 
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eyeballing the cdc model of flu deaths, the average of the mean of the 95% confidence interval over the last 10 years is ~40,000/yr

Looking at the C19 deaths from CDC - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/us-cases-deaths.html

Count will go over 120,000 today.

175,00+ by the end of September, since i'm supposed to make a prediction??? which will be about 3x the worst mean flu deaths (2018)

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The flu is not a single virus - the "vaccine" is not a vaccine like MMR. It is a temporary immunization against the strains they modeled as most likely
to spread. If they "miss" on the prediction, more people get sick.

Estimated vaccine coverage is ~50% overall, with ~65% in the 65+ age bracket. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/fluvaxview/coverage-1819estimates.htm
That leaves quite a few unvaccinated, and the efficacy is sketchy as people get older - reduced immune response in general. (that is in one of these cdc statements)

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i've upped my comfort level to riding with a group rather than just a couple people - but we really do stay away from each other.
I can't keep up anyway, so i use that as my distancing strategy.
Masks inside public spaces - required, and not a problem.
Not planning on going out to eat yet.

CDC estimates flu vaccine saves about 20% of deaths per season, so between 2 to 3× flu death rate sounds about right.

Anywho, is this really happening?

https://nypost.com/2020/06/21/coronavirus-is-weakening-could-disappear-on-its-own-italian-doctor/
 
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott says in the past few days, they have averaged more than 3,500 new cases a day and the positivity rate has gone to more than 9 percent now. "To state the obvious, COVID-19 is now spreading at an unacceptable rate in Texas," Abbott says.
 
They must have heard me - worldometers had them offline, and when i checked their dashboard it didn't have
data after the 18th. all better now - they made up some data to save face. 😉

yeah well in any event they still need to triple deaths to catch NJ or NY...
 
yeah well in any event they still need to triple deaths to catch NJ or NY...

not a horrible comparison to NJ - within 10% population - nj with 3x cases and deaths.
the glaring difference is the landmass of sweden is 20x the size of NJ - but that doesn't matter -
70% of the people are in the southern 25%
 
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