This Thread Blows - C19 and beyond

GSTim said:
People just don't seem to be driving the speed limit. Just drive the darn speed limit.
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I don't actually scratch my balls its more of a pinch... anyway a car crash is limited to those involved, the virus is different you don't just get it or give it to people you're in contact with but whole social circles are exposed and people who use the door after you. Its like what they say about shaking hands, every hand you've shaken has held a dick.

Sry Tim I needed to get the whole tool kit in one post for my mtbnj corona virus bingo.
 
GSTim said:
I love how if it's something that you want to do it's fine, but something that you don't care about, the people are "asshats" or "childlike". Were you wearing masks on your ride? I didn't think so.
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I don't GAF what you think cause I'm tested clean. How about you? If you think riding a bike is as bad as the behavior in those photos have a nice day.?
 
GSTim said:
I love how if it's something that you want to do it's fine, but something that you don't care about, the people are "asshats" or "childlike". Were you wearing masks on your ride? I didn't think so.
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I've forgotten more about fast cars than you'll ever know. How many track championships in your house. ?
 
thegock said:
I believe that the USA average for the last 3 years is 36,000 flu dead.

Does that make the flu worse than 120k in 3 months?

Help me out here, @Monkey Soup --- I was never any good at so-called math.
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But you are good at believing everything they tell you, or just believing what you want to believe. Either way, whatever, you‘re no different from everyone else. Coronavirus has become like every other controversial topic, such as global warming, racism, politics, religion, etc., if you question the popular narrative, you must be part of the problem, right?

Back to your original passive aggressive statement - the Total number of deaths are exaggerated. For example, if someone died at a nursing home or care facility, many times they were counted once at the facility, then again at the hospital or morgue. So one person dying of coronavirus gets counted as 2, in case you can’t follow the math. Also, some deaths that were peripherally associated with the virus were/are counted as corona deaths. I personally knew a gentleman with Alzheimers who had corona, recovered, then succumbed a month later to the Alzheimers. Death certificate listed cause of death as corona.
 
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Mtbdog said:
I don't GAF what you think cause I'm tested clean. How about you? If you think riding a bike is as bad as the behavior in those photos have a nice day.?
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What does tested clean mean? It means that at that exact time you didn't have it (or were false negative). Are you testing yourself every morning? Even taking your temperature every morning and night like I am?
 
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Monkey Soup said:
But you are good at believing everything they tell you, or just believing what you want to believe. Either way, whatever, you‘re no different from everyone else.

Back to your original passive aggressive statement - the Total number of deaths are exaggerated. For example, if someone died at a nursing home or care facility, many times they were counted once at the facility, then again at the hospital or morgue. So one person dying of coronavirus gets counted as 2, in case you can’t follow the math. Also, some deaths that were peripherally associated with the virus were/are counted as corona deaths. I personally knew a gentleman with Alzheimers who had corona, recovered, then succumbed a month later to the Alzheimers. Death certificate listed cause of death as corona.
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What is your best estimate for the amount of the overstatement?
 
Monkey Soup said:
But you are good at believing everything they tell you, or just believing what you want to believe. Either way, whatever, you‘re no different from everyone else. Coronavirus has become like every other controversial topic, such as global warming, racism, politics, religion, etc., if you question the popular narrative, you must be part of the problem, right?

Back to your original passive aggressive statement - the Total number of deaths are exaggerated. For example, if someone died at a nursing home or care facility, many times they were counted once at the facility, then again at the hospital or morgue. So one person dying of coronavirus gets counted as 2, in case you can’t follow the math. Also, some deaths that were peripherally associated with the virus were/are counted as corona deaths. I personally knew a gentleman with Alzheimers who had corona, recovered, then succumbed a month later to the Alzheimers. Death certificate listed cause of death as corona.
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i Have heard several anecdotal stories of deaths attributed to covid that were clearly not.
Where are you getting the information that deaths are counted twice? And why is that more reliable than any other stats? Even if the certificate erroneously states COVID, it still would not explain the abnormally high rate of extra deaths, no?
 
Probably not a popular opinion, but I'm 100% convinced the people that died would've died no matter what. I'm also pretty tired of everyone pretending to care, you don't. No one does. They say they do, but they don't.
 
Until a vaccine is developed, what is the goal tho?

Is it to flatten it just enough so that the hospital systems are not overwhelmed or are we trying to get the infection rate to close to zero?

South Korea, every time they do something to get back to normalcy, infection climbs and they scale back. They are going back and forth from phase 2 and 3 I think?

New Zealand said they eradicated and they are close to zero?
 
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jimvreeland said:
Probably not a popular opinion, but I'm 100% convinced the people that died would've died no matter what. I'm also pretty tired of everyone pretending to care, you don't. No one does. They say they do, but they don't.
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I am 100% convinced that everyone is going to die.

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And you know that I don't care, except about a tiny subset of my family, friends, and the guy who fixes my bikes.
 
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roc said:
i Have heard several anecdotal stories of deaths attributed to covid that were clearly not.
Where are you getting the information that deaths are counted twice? And why is that more reliable than any other stats? Even if the certificate erroneously states COVID, it still would not explain the abnormally high rate of extra deaths, no?
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That last sentence is the powerful, mathematical case for the theory that C19 mortality is undercounted. The WSJ and the NYT both ran articles on the theory last month.

Or, as @mfennell posted in the last day:

Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19

Figures present excess deaths associated with COVID-19 at the national and state levels.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov

Which he just posted again below (sorry)
 
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rick81721 said:
real death rate is dead/total infected. FL has tested 1% of the population for antibodies, 4.3% positive. So 3100 dead/1 million
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Right. And NYC has 17,500 dead out of an estimated 1.7M infected. Which is 1% and why I think 0.3 is overoptimistic, though I think it will be below 1%. (std disclaimer - I don't know what I don't know about infectious disease. ! just like numbers).

Plenty of those infected in FL just haven't died yet.
 
thegock said:
That last sentence is the powerful, mathematical case for the theory that C19 mortality is undercounted. The WSJ and the NYT both ran articles on the theory last month.
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Exactly. Here's the CDC link. Again. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm The overall number of deaths per week (age, cancer, falling down manhole, tragic unicycle accident) is surprisingly consistent from year to year, rising in the colder months (flu, suicides?, car crashes?) and falling in the warmer ones. Look at the chart at the bottom of the page. The spike this year in March/April dwarfs anything since 2017.
 
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