This Thread Blows - C19 and beyond

[Zaskar]

where? everywhere I look around here (Hunterdon county) it's symptoms only.

Wife and I are getting tested Monday in Essex.

 

[Mahnken]

I didn't realize how many places have restrictions. Looks like rite aid will test anyone 18 and over without symptoms.

Walmart too.

 

[rick81721]

Gee, Dr. Joe said that the excess numbers were statistically significant and evidence that there is an undercount. He did also say that there could be another cause, but didn't believe so. He also asked me what @Monkey Soup thought. ?

You are confusing raw number of deaths with death rate.

 

[rick81721]

And here's hospitalizations vs deaths 7 day moving averages. Sustained rising trends in hospitalizations precede rising trends in deaths, as expected. Deaths 7 Day moving average is indeed starting to rise.
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Too early to say - have to see in a week if hospitalizations and/or deaths are really climbing. Seems pretty clear tho that deaths/new cases has dropped significantly. Going from 50,000 total cases to 100,000, deaths increased from 2000 to 3000.

 

[thegock]

You are confusing raw number of deaths with death rate.

I am focusing on the raw # of dead bodies, because it reflects the kill rate AND the rate of transmission.

 

[rick81721]

Another 5000 new cases in FL today, 46 new deaths, 201 new hospitalizations. Trend holding of huge increase in new cases being found, but hospitalizations and deaths steady. Will still need to see another week of data.

This is interesting, Orange County (contains Orlando) has seen their total cases double between june 11 and june 24. Two weeks prior to june 11 are two "events", Memorial day on may 25 and the Floyd protests started may 26. Did a lot of young people suddenly start going out after memorial day, or did the protests have a large impact on transmission?

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/l...ange-county-leaders-share-update-on-covid-19/

 

[Patrick]

Another 5000 new cases in FL today, 46 new deaths, 201 new hospitalizations. Trend holding of huge increase in new cases being found, but hospitalizations and deaths steady. Will still need to see another week of data.

This is interesting, Orange County (contains Orlando) has seen their total cases double between june 11 and june 24. Two weeks prior to june 11 are two "events", Memorial day on may 25 and the Floyd protests started may 26. Did a lot of young people suddenly start going out after memorial day, or did the protests have a large impact on transmission?

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/l...ange-county-leaders-share-update-on-covid-19/

was wondering if the hot weather forces people inside? so combine that with the large gatherings

fl, tx, az, SoCal

 

[rick81721]

was wondering if the hot weather forces people inside? so combine that with the large gatherings

fl, tx, az, SoCal

That's one of the theories I've read - people inside with the A/C

 

[one piece crank]

was wondering if the hot weather forces people inside? so combine that with the large gatherings

fl, tx, az, SoCal

Hot spots are all along I5, I10 and I85. Likely one super-spreader driving up and down those interstates fast as a shark (but not in a black camaro? @jimvreeland ).

 

[bergsnj]

was wondering if the hot weather forces people inside? so combine that with the large gatherings

fl, tx, az, SoCal

crazy for me to imagine wanting to go inside because it's hot out. Winter sucks so bad, I'd rather sweat my ass off outside then sit in the AC.

 

[Patrick]

crazy for me to imagine wanting to go inside because it's hot out. Winter sucks so bad, I'd rather sweat my ass off outside then sit in the AC.

I was in az a couple years back at 110f
It was brutal.

 

[stb222]

That's one of the theories I've read - people inside with the A/C

But why hasn’t FL blown up earlier then?

 

[thegock]

8,942 new cases in Florida today, surpassing the previous record by over 3,000.

@rick81721

 

[rick81721]

8,942 new cases in Florida today, surpassing the previous record by over 3,000.

@rick81721

yep, and 39 deaths, 212 new hospitalizations. Orlando is exploding - 1000 new cases alone. Gov shutting down bars serving alcohol.

 

[Paul H]

8,942 new cases in Florida today, surpassing the previous record by over 3,000.

@rick81721

But death is low...... For now

 

[rick81721]

But death is low...... For now

Yeah too early to say how much the deaths will increase in FL, but over the last 7 days:

FL 265 deaths
NJ 257 deaths

 

[mfennell]

8,942 new cases in Florida today, surpassing the previous record by over 3,000.

@rick81721

Yikes. The number of deaths is reflective of two weeks ago, just before the surge started in earnest.

 

[rick81721]

Yikes. The number of deaths is reflective of two weeks ago, just before the surge started in earnest.

surge where? FL cases have been increasing for 3 weeks now

 

[thegock]

surge where? FL cases have been increasing for 3 weeks now

That would be the surge in the Sunbelt.

 

[Robson]

I was in az a couple years back at 110f
It was brutal.

yeah, but is dry heat.