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So, that was my first zwift ride. If there is a "stay together" feature, do you really have to work to stay in the group?
 
So if the front rides faster, would the group be able to complete that in an hour?
not sure if the rubber band pulls the back up?
 
So, that was my first zwift ride. If there is a "stay together" feature, do you really have to work to stay in the group?

glenn has the stay together feature turned on - if you do a 'workout' group ride, you will stay with the group. all the other ones
are drop rides. and they can hurt. races hurt even more. they start, and you don't know the class of the people, so grab a group and hang on!
 
Soooooo... I'm not really sure how the stay together feature works, but as someone who's occasionally in the back, I do notice that once in a while I get moved up a little faster to get closer to the group.

As for working to stay with the group, I guess you don't have to if zwift kind of just sling shots you forward, but having faster riders in front is one hell of an incentive to push regardless of the feature. Besides, if you're looking to be lazy, zwift really isn't your thing.
 
glenn has the stay together feature turned on - if you do a 'workout' group ride, you will stay with the group. all the other ones
are drop rides. and they can hurt. races hurt even more. they start, and you don't know the class of the people, so grab a group and hang on!

that’s why I’m asking. If you stay together regardless, why would this be harder than normal? Can’t you just turn the pedals and stay in the group?
 
that’s why I’m asking. If you stay together regardless, why would this be harder than normal? Can’t you just turn the pedals and stay in the group?

it is a virtual spin class -
they could use a leader queuing to stand/sit/100%/recover.

but i felt that extra effort moved me to the front, so there is that motivation
 
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So, that was my first zwift ride. If there is a "stay together" feature, do you really have to work to stay in the group?
Clearly, this question is mine to answer. For background, I’m on the wrong end of 50, with a damaged pump and at nearly 260 with an ftp of 175. Those numbers make normal group rides essentially not feasible as the watts /Kg won’t align and forget races.

If you are close to or in the group it’s all you, if you drop back more than 3 seconds or so the rubber back pulls you closer to the group as long as your trainer is transmitting cadence and power (speed for non smart trainers) it will keep you in contact with the group.

So, do you have to kill yourselves to tag along? No, you don’t. But I’ll be dammed if I’m gonna get dragged along like some tin can tied to the back of a car with a just married sign on it. I’m turning myself inside out on these rides and I’m grateful for them. I need to upgrade my home network or strangle the bandwidth hogs at home so I can reduce the frequency of dropouts... but that’s another story.

Crap, I just glanced at what I wrote and I’d sounds like I’m being defensive, believe me, I’m not. It’s just an honest assessment of the ride.
 
Clearly, this question is mine to answer. For background, I’m on the wrong end of 50, with a damaged pump and at nearly 260 with an ftp of 175. Those numbers make normal group rides essentially not feasible as the watts /Kg won’t align and forget races.

If you are close to or in the group it’s all you, if you drop back more than 3 seconds or so the rubber back pulls you closer to the group as long as your trainer is transmitting cadence and power (speed for non smart trainers) it will keep you in contact with the group.

So, do you have to kill yourselves to tag along? No, you don’t. But I’ll be dammed if I’m gonna get dragged along like some tin can tied to the back of a car with a just married sign on it. I’m turning myself inside out on these rides and I’m grateful for them. I need to upgrade my home network or strangle the bandwidth hogs at home so I can reduce the frequency of dropouts... but that’s another story.

Crap, I just glanced at what I wrote and I’d sounds like I’m being defensive, believe me, I’m not. It’s just an honest assessment of the ride.

it shot you to the front on the downhills!

Since you posted 30 or so PRs, i'd venture to say you were working hard, and this format was motivating.
check you hr, and power curve!
gotta love that.

well done.

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Clearly, this question is mine to answer. For background, I’m on the wrong end of 50, with a damaged pump and at nearly 260 with an ftp of 175. Those numbers make normal group rides essentially not feasible as the watts /Kg won’t align and forget races.

If you are close to or in the group it’s all you, if you drop back more than 3 seconds or so the rubber back pulls you closer to the group as long as your trainer is transmitting cadence and power (speed for non smart trainers) it will keep you in contact with the group.

So, do you have to kill yourselves to tag along? No, you don’t. But I’ll be dammed if I’m gonna get dragged along like some tin can tied to the back of a car with a just married sign on it. I’m turning myself inside out on these rides and I’m grateful for them. I need to upgrade my home network or strangle the bandwidth hogs at home so I can reduce the frequency of dropouts... but that’s another story.

Crap, I just glanced at what I wrote and I’d sounds like I’m being defensive, believe me, I’m not. It’s just an honest assessment of the ride.

you may just need a new / better WiFi router. I was testing the new WIFI 6 routers we sell with 5G home and they are pretty incredible. My WiFi speeds are no longer bottlenecked by WiFi. Throughput went from 10 to 350ish in the basement. Pretty crazy how a slow WiFi router can ruin the experience.
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you may just need a new / better WiFi router. I was testing the new WIFI 6 routers we sell with 5G home and they are pretty incredible. My WiFi speeds are no longer bottlenecked by WiFi. Throughput went from 10 to 350ish in the basement. Pretty crazy how a slow WiFi router can ruin the experience. View attachment 110759

is that on your phone, through your wifi? And you have 900mb/s service?
that may be faster than my wired stuff!
 
is that on your phone, through your wifi? And you have 900mb/s service?
that may be faster than my wired stuff!

No... That's through Xfinity cable modem. A laptop set up through Ethernet yields the same speed.
But most wifi routers can't hang like that.
 
that’s why I’m asking. If you stay together regardless, why would this be harder than normal? Can’t you just turn the pedals and stay in the group?
I'm assuming it's just for visuals and keeping motivation. The thing I'm curious about is whether the slower rider got less mileage overall, or if they get a slingshot forward to the lead groups spot on the map and suddenly resistance changes. Like if they were on a downhill but the leader is climbing, does it suddenly change. I need to move somewhere with a basement or garage for Zwifter.

Also, no Fios as a Verizon employee? There are plenty of routers out there that support high speeds/throughput, they're just not the ones most people buy at Walmart or get for free from the ISP.
 
No... That's through Xfinity cable modem. A laptop set up through Ethernet yields the same speed.
But most wifi routers can't hang like that.

That's what i meant - you are using the integrated wireless access point -
picture or link to cable modem - mine only supports wireless g/n - i suspect you are doing ac?
wonder if i can get an upgrade? I have a 300mbs plan and get 270 on my wired devices, but much less on the wireless.
 
The thing I'm curious about is whether the slower rider got less mileage overall,

same amount of mileage - it looks like they lower the power curve (or increase the speed for a given power?)
We like 'time in saddle' better than mileage anyway!
 
That's what i meant - you are using the integrated wireless access point -
picture or link to cable modem - mine only supports wireless g/n - i suspect you are doing ac?
wonder if i can get an upgrade? I have a 300mbs plan and get 270 on my wired devices, but much less on the wireless.
N should still support 300, but there will always be a slight drop in Wifi speeds regardless with walls, etc. I'm sure you know, but if you have multiple bands, also check if you may be connected to your 2.4Ghz band which would is typically at least half as slow as your 5Ghz band. The optimal set up would be a PoE switch with PoE AP's throughout the house, but I know maybe 5 people that have this over the usual ISP modem and router in one room.
 
N should still support 300, but there will always be a slight drop in Wifi speeds regardless with walls, etc. I'm sure you know, but if you have multiple bands, also check if you may be connected to your 2.4Ghz band which would is typically at least half as slow as your 5Ghz band. The optimal set up would be a PoE switch with PoE AP's throughout the house, but I know maybe 5 people that have this over the usual ISP modem and router in one room.

The VZ router is SON so it automatically connects to 5ghz when it’s available and drops to 2.4 when it’s not.

And why POE APs ? A mesh setup will be just as effective.
 
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