Peezy's Black Magic 2013

I vote to hide that floor, its too busy and will not help pull the new bathroom together.
Mandi, u should be able to tile over the existing floor, I don't thing u need to demo. As long as tiles are not coming up you could probably go over it. A tile guys would know for sure.
Also if you don't want to tile you could use vinyl flooring. Its cheap and easy to install. It comes in one piece that u cut to fit. The time to do it is before you put in sink and toilet, so now would be a good time to do it..
 
If the floor is level, you can tile over it. People will say you can't go over it but you can. Going over it with tile has potential issues with the two layers of tiles flxing differently and causing cracks in the top layer of tile. I would not recommend laminate or hardwood on a bathroom with a shower because of water issues getting in an out of the tub, however you could get away with it because even the good laminate is relatively inexpesive and easy to replace if it did warp.

FWIW, demo'ing a floor and redoing it is one of the easier things you can do on your own. I demo'ed tile off a slab in my kitchen, living, dining room and hall way and it only took a few hours. Messy as fuck, but no more messy than taking down shit rock. Rent/borrow a demo gun and go to town.
 
to back up what kev said - i have laminate in my kitchen. not a fan of it because of the water issues with laminate are showing. when we decide we want to redo our kitchen, the floor will be the first thing out of the house. in a bathroom i'd imagine it being worse.

i think you could tile right over that.
 
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This is what you want

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If you're using liquid membrane waterproofing then you'd eliminate the sheet plastic, and the membrane would be on top of the cement board (see this image)
 
lost track over here - is the floor tile? Is there a mortar base under it?
the tiles can be chipped off with a pneumatic hammer or hammer drill set to hammer (or by hand with a cold chisel) tile can go over whatever is left - they would have built up a drypack bed.

successfully tiling a floor is based on the amount of flex in the floor.
fortified thinset will flex a bit, and not transmit through the tile or grout, but it is a small amount. (if it is a vinyl floor now)

cement board must be glued(mortar) & screwed down in the specified pattern, then tiled. Gap at walls and tub can be 1/8 or whatever grout joint you are using. fill it with color matched latex caulk.

if you are feeling adventurous, if the base is solid, a $60 tile saw rental is all you need to DIY. and a notched trowel, and grout float, and a bullet level.......ok, maybe some spacers, and a few more things.

correctly applied sheet laminate is only glued along the edges.
 
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I tiled over the tile in my shower, you can do it if your subfloor is great. Mine was cement, I think yours is too?
The tile in my bathrooms was tile directly over vinyl, directly on plywood. Wait, there was a sheet of paper in there somewhere, I think between the vinyl and tile. Hmf, Anyway it lasted since they did it in 1973. The grout was busted out in some spots, but I think there was a leaky toilet involved in there.
You can get away with more flex using a mosaic tile because you can't get the leverage on them to break tiles. You'll break the grout eventually if it's bouncy, but that's not bad to fix every 10 years when it happens. I wouldn't do this in your entranceway where it gets a lot of traffic, but really how much walking around is going to happen in your bathroom? And 2 fatless cyclists? Mandi on Pearl's shoulders would hardly flex even a terrible floor.
I told Pearl via SMS today that I'm done with my tile stuff for at least a month. You are welcome to my tile nippers, tile cutter, and tile saw. And my grout float and sponge though they might need to be replaced soon.
My tile saw is a $50 lowes piece of crap. It cuts great, but adjusting the size is a pain in the dick. The fence that slides left and right to set the size just kinda floats and you lock it in with 2 thumb screws, one on the front and one on the back, it's just loose in there otherwise so you have to actually line up the front of the fence, and then the back, or the fence will be crooked. It's an extra annoying step, I'm sure a $500 tile saw works super fast and straight but this gets the job done. Plus you don't have to worry about renting it extra days. I had like 30 different size cuts I had to make between putting in that shower niche and that weird shower stall I have, you might only have to set the size on it a couple times and it's not a big deal. It's a wet saw too.
ANYWAY you are welcome to it. But I'm going to tile my basement sometime this winter so I'll need it back at some point.
The tile cutter works great, have to use that on mosaic tiles and I ened up using it for 1's and 2's of tile cuts so I didn't have to set the fence on the saw. It's super fast to use too.
Oh I have a square notched trowel and a v notch trowel.
 
RLB, yes, that is the setup we finally have now. Long story short, my father & a guy from work had to go to my house and rip everything out. We had to double up on the cement board on 2 sides of my tub to get it at the right location. They also built up the drywall on those walls to keep everything even. As well as ripping out all the sheetrock and putting insulation in. This turned into a mess really quick.

So the floors are basically a 1-piece kind of floor. It seems to be around 3/4in deep of pure cement. It looks like a Windmill pattern tile, but it's definitely not individual pieces of tile. And nothings cracked... we were letting the blocks fall off the wall onto them and they lasted the whole ordeal.

Luke... I'd love to borrow your tile saw! I bought a manual tile cutter but it would be nice to have just in case I need a different cut. Our subway tile (in the shower) should be pretty standard cuts but we still have to go around the fixtures
 
mandi said:
So the floors are basically a 1-piece kind of floor. It seems to be around 3/4in deep of pure cement. It looks like a Windmill pattern tile, but it's definitely not individual pieces of tile. And nothings cracked... we were letting the blocks fall off the wall onto them and they lasted the whole ordeal.
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Go right over top with this situation, you minus will do it now while everything is ripped apart.
 
BTW, I purchased IKEA cabinets 8 years ago and they have been great. The finish has held up and they really have not had any issues. I installed them myself and the bolt system they have is easy to work with and also makes it really easy to hang the upper cabinets yourself. I admit, I almost killed myself installing a floor to sofit pantry but I eventually got it in.
 
not, trying to steal luke's thunder, if you want I'm a little closer. You can borrow a brand new craftsman wet tile saw. Not responsible for any injuries or deaths.

I'm saving it for a rainy day like a rainy day a couple years away.
 
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BTW, I purchased IKEA cabinets 8 years ago and they have been great. The finish has held up and they really have not had any issues. I installed them myself and the bolt system they have is easy to work with and also makes it really easy to hang the upper cabinets yourself.
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Ah, sweet!
 
stb222 said:
BTW, I purchased IKEA cabinets 8 years ago and they have been great. The finish has held up and they really have not had any issues. I installed them myself and the bolt system they have is easy to work with and also makes it really easy to hang the upper cabinets yourself. I admit, I almost killed myself installing a floor to sofit pantry but I eventually got it in.
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I also rebuilt my kitchen about 7-8 years ago. IKEA cabinets are easy to install and customize, the hardware is good. However white door finish is yellowish in some places. The door of pull out waste container has multiple finish cracks on the top - I think to replace it and cover it with bike frame protective film.
 
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I just posted this in my blog... but this is what they did to my tub. Please, start saying WTF??!?!?! now...



**Sorry I'm taking over your blog James P
 
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