Peezy's Black Magic 2013
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making quick work of it. good stuff.
some considerations.
- is there an exhaust fan?
-convert the heat to 12" baseboard, rather than that recessed upright,
this provides room for insulation behind it, and can be longer (making the bathroom a warmer area)
-consider sound insulation if there are neighboring bedrooms (not that much sound travels through the plaster, but since it is torn apart)
- add a dedicated GFCI outlet/circuit if there isn't one. (good for boot dryer, etc)
- if not moving the sink, add nailing plates/stud reinforcement over the drain pipe. http://i10.tinypic.com/2ldtun8.gif and plates over the supply to the WC.
-replace the insulation (suspect that you are on this)
Anything else?
found this. doesn't apply, but since there is a house....
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mikespohr/what-no-one-tells-you-about-becoming-a-parent?sub=2771063_2021561
some considerations.
- is there an exhaust fan?
-convert the heat to 12" baseboard, rather than that recessed upright,
this provides room for insulation behind it, and can be longer (making the bathroom a warmer area)
-consider sound insulation if there are neighboring bedrooms (not that much sound travels through the plaster, but since it is torn apart)
- add a dedicated GFCI outlet/circuit if there isn't one. (good for boot dryer, etc)
- if not moving the sink, add nailing plates/stud reinforcement over the drain pipe. http://i10.tinypic.com/2ldtun8.gif and plates over the supply to the WC.
-replace the insulation (suspect that you are on this)
Anything else?
found this. doesn't apply, but since there is a house....
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mikespohr/what-no-one-tells-you-about-becoming-a-parent?sub=2771063_2021561
mandi
Well-Known Member
Fidodie, I've been wondering if we could make the heat into baseboard. I know nothing about these radiators so I'm stumped. We have them all over the house and I'd much rather have baseboard. Although, I don't want to repair all the walls around the house where they are now. If we could at least change the bathroom I'd be happy.
Red Mosquito
Formerly RLB the Scrapple Boy
Are they one pipe or two pipe radiators?
gtluke
The Moped
Yeah you can just swap them out for baseboard, those convectors operate the same. You should figure out if you are on all one loop or if you have flow splitters, and it's driving me insane that I can't recall wtf those splitters are called.
Really what you should do is rip out the floor and waste 11 months getting the floor heating system to work so you have no radiators in the bathroom and then never use it because you bought a wood stove 😉
Really what you should do is rip out the floor and waste 11 months getting the floor heating system to work so you have no radiators in the bathroom and then never use it because you bought a wood stove 😉
Red Mosquito
Formerly RLB the Scrapple Boy
The place I just moved from was single pipe. Not recently built, but they're still out there!
single pipe meaning the loop goes through each radiator using a monoflow tee (which is what luke is looking for?) - then each radiator can have a control valve to restrict how much water goes through it - providing balance for each room.
there is also the ones that use a supply loop, and return loop. and real hack jobs where a single pipe goes through each radiator in series.
Mandi, conversion is cleaner if there is access underneath. it would be simple to move the pipes forward, and create the longer loop under the floor. if there is no access (meaning a ceiling that doesn't need to be ripped out,) the pipes can be routed inside the baseboard.
there are fancy digital controls now for each radiator, so each room gets just what it needs
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we had steam growing up - replaced the converted coal furnace with a nice oil one, with on-demand hot water. only problem was that it couldn't make steam with the hot water running!
there is also the ones that use a supply loop, and return loop. and real hack jobs where a single pipe goes through each radiator in series.
Mandi, conversion is cleaner if there is access underneath. it would be simple to move the pipes forward, and create the longer loop under the floor. if there is no access (meaning a ceiling that doesn't need to be ripped out,) the pipes can be routed inside the baseboard.
there are fancy digital controls now for each radiator, so each room gets just what it needs
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we had steam growing up - replaced the converted coal furnace with a nice oil one, with on-demand hot water. only problem was that it couldn't make steam with the hot water running!
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Pearl
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
gtluke
The Moped
I think RLB means single pipe steam.
mandi
Well-Known Member
So would I just remove the old cover/back, and the new baseboard would just fit over what I have now? Or would I have to replace something else?
We have these covers all over the house and they are sort of an eyesore. I took a few pictures this weekend because I was planning on going to the Home Improvement store and asking the guy what I was looking at haha
We have these covers all over the house and they are sort of an eyesore. I took a few pictures this weekend because I was planning on going to the Home Improvement store and asking the guy what I was looking at haha
the working part of your unit is recessed in the wall, so it gets cut off and replaced by a section purchased at the big orange store, with some pipe and an air bleed valve - the pipes probably come up inside the wall too, so they need to be relocated. or just turned outside the wall -
take some close-up pictures where we can see the unit with relationship to the wall.
here is some baseboard with the return plumbing inside it.
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gtluke
The Moped
Mandi you can't get the back out without taking the element out first, and if you take the element out you have to turn off the boiler and you can't turn it back on until the new radiator is in place. UNLESS you have monoflow fittings, in that case you can cut out the old radiator, temporarily cap it with some sharkbite caps, and then turn the boiler back on.
The boiler needs to be COLD before you do this because you need to drain out the water. but it's winter, so head's up.
The boiler needs to be COLD before you do this because you need to drain out the water. but it's winter, so head's up.
gtluke
The Moped
Here's the difference. With the monoflow system you can shut one convector off and the rest of the house will work. With a "regular" system if you take a convector out, it'll stop the flow to the rest. You would need to patch the system together temporarily if you wanted your heat to keep working while you work.
