PC vs Mac I know loaded ?

It's kindof like this. Do you want a mongoose from walmart (discount laptop from an online retailer...3-500 bucks) do you want a full carbon s-works (Mac Pro or customized Windows machine) or something in the middle. Each one has its place and target customer. Brand choice is a great thing, but that's all it really comes down to. Spec for spec, you can get a windows based machine that is cheaper than a mac just like you can get a motobecane cheaper than a comparable cannondale. It just comes down to what you would like to use and how confident you are in the company that produces it.
 
ymerej1881 said:
It's kindof like this. Do you want a mongoose from walmart (discount laptop from an online retailer...3-500 bucks) do you want a full carbon s-works (Mac Pro or customized Windows machine) or something in the middle. Each one has its place and target customer. Brand choice is a great thing, but that's all it really comes down to. Spec for spec, you can get a windows based machine that is cheaper than a mac just like you can get a motobecane cheaper than a comparable cannondale. It just comes down to what you would like to use and how confident you are in the company that produces it.
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So you saying windows based laptops are bad and Mac is great...get real. There is a reason why PC format dominates market.
 
Robson said:
So you saying windows based laptops are bad and Mac is great...get real. There is a reason why PC format dominates market.
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I think you misread that. He's suggesting that the full carbon s-works is like either a "Mac Pro or customized windows machine"



PS. who supports the new vapor cooled GTX 580 GPU? 😉
 
No, not that at all. I'm saying there are different brand choices. Some look like they have good specs but they are terrible (I have never had a good HP and I've gone through a few of them), others have better ones. I had a Sony Vaio few years ago and it was a great machine.

There are different options, and I would be wary of the super cheap ones unless your only use is basic stuff. From the high-end perspective, you can get a Windows based machine with good specs but awful reliability and customer service so it may not be worth the discount. On the other hand, you can get a Windows machine with great specs that will serve you very well. The issue is that it takes some time to sort out all of the different brands to see which one that is. With a Mac OS, you only have one brand to think about with verifiable ease of use and longevity. However, it is just one good option among others. It always comes down to the freedom of choice, which is why there is no conclusive answer to this incredibly tired argument.


The PC domination really has nothing to do with excellence. It is the result of business decisions made by Gates and Jobs early in the process. You can argue the open vs. closed model forever, but the reality is that it is up to the consumer to decide where they would like to spend their money and what they value the most. It’s the same advice we give people when they are looking for a new bike to purchase. Go play with it, see which one fits the best and get it. Then enjoy the purchase!
 
Disclaimer: This is not towards those with objective opinions. you know who you are. 😉

Just something to keep in mind for the h8ters 😀...I think you will find that most Mac users have also used Windows if not use it every day like me.
Have any of you ever used a Mac for any length of time? (not including an ipod/iPad/iPhone) That's a whole different animal IMO.
I'm talking about OSX.
Most of the time I've found that the hate is spread through blogs/forums/e-mails etc without ever forming an objective opinion through personal experience.
In order to form an educated opinion I believe this is a necessary evil.
JM2C OF course.

Now back to the regular scheduled program....😀
 
michael.su said:
Have any of you ever used a Mac for any length of time? (not including an ipod/iPad/iPhone) That's a whole different animal IMO.
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I currently own two macs and enjoy them very much.

MST.ESQ said:
Answer: Yes

IMO this thread is no longer helpful. For his own sake, I hope Matty is no longer reading the responses🙁.
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What's the point? Just rip the band-aid off and get used to the heated debate now because it won't get any easier when you tell your family and friends you converted. 🙂
 
Jason said:
What's the point? Just rip the band-aid off and get used to the heated debate now because it won't get any easier when you tell your family and friends you converted. 🙂
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Hahaha!

I have a ridiculous amount of computers at home. Macs , Windows , Linux. It's all good 😉
My wife thinks I have a problem.😀

If only my bike collection was as healthy:hmmm:
 
Mac's are not 29ers, Mac's are leg shaving. I already established this comparison, no hijacking!

It astonishes me how many of my mac friends have had to replace the motherboards on their macbook pro's or have dead hard drives.
The prices apple charges for replacement parts are bind boggling.
$600 for a replacement motherboard? Oh yeah, you know you can buy a brand new PC laptop with higher specs for that price? INCLUDING THE REST OF THE FREAKING COMPUTER?

The apple tax is retarded.
 
kimrey said:
As long as we agree that Macs are the 29er, I'm OK with this statement!
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I had a Apple IIGS before I has a POS PC, so no, Macs are not 29ers.

I dont have much to add but the if you want to avoid 99% of viruses and crap out there, buy a mac, if not, buy a PC and just replace it every other year when (not if) it gets clogged up.
 
stb222 said:
..... if not, buy a PC and just replace it every other year when (not if) it gets clogged up.
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Or learn how to back your files up and just reinstall windows. I do it about once a year. Its not totally necessary, but it beats dropping $400 on a new PC.
 
jShort said:
Or learn how to back your files up and just reinstall windows. I do it about once a year. Its not totally necessary, but it beats dropping $400 on a new PC.
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And that's a great, but not always necessary method to maintaining a PC. I've been running this laptop (17" HP Business class machine/beast) for 2 years as both a work machine (heavy AutoCAD & Civil 3D use, which is equivalent to lots of multimedia work) and a personal machine. It's been wonderful, because I have been maintaining it. Every month I will defrag my harddrive, empty the temporary folders, clear caches, etc. But it isn't an extremely portable laptop...

You might want to look into Lenovo laptops. They're well built and come at great specs (Core i5 for $630? Awesome).

I'm going to pick up a Lenovo in the near future, mainly because I need something I can bring to classes and use all day without a charge.
 
used iMovie on bros Mac. Wow. For a program that comes with a new Mac i was blown away and eats Movie Maker for breakfast. The ease, options, and detail. Like how when you put the mouse over the library vids it plays at that instant where your cursor is. Well, he has the new quad iMac sooo that probably plays in somewhere. I have to try Adobo Elements before I do something stupid.

But still the sound/picture is not in sync. I did a straight upload to Vimeo thru iMove (that was pretty sweet too). I wonder if I just made a movie file would it have been unsynced too...

My main problem with video editing is my camera does MOV files and after conversion on windows to avi. Everything is off or sometimes WMM crashes. Does windows 7 movie maker process MOV files? Does adobe elements?
 
I have to admit, there are no good solutions to editing movies on a windows computer. All options are awful.
Somehow the best one is PowerDirector, which is ultra cheesy but actually good at the same time.
 
gtluke said:
I have to admit, there are no good solutions to editing movies on a windows computer. All options are awful.
Somehow the best one is PowerDirector, which is ultra cheesy but actually good at the same time.
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I just download a trial version of PoweDirector after reading reviews and I have to agree - actually works pretty decently for how goofy the UI is.
 
It's one of the few ones with a good output format, sorta.
H264 .m2ts
I think both vimeo and utube take that format now, and it's the best quality for it's size.
 
Goofy UI? I thought it was all pretty straightforward, pretty easy learning curve, especially with how much you can do with it. Compare it to say, Photoshop, which has a very steep learning curve.
 
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