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Me either. Thats sorta my point Vic. I dont think you did anything wrong by posting that ride, or ridding any of those trails. Point is, you're certainly not alone in having ridding them. Calling you, or anyone else out for it isnt what OOS, or mountain biking in general should be about. I'll say it again, live and let ride !
 
Victor I said:
Because debates and in fighting ensued and consequently took the fun and simplicity out of it. Makes me question if I want to post rides any longer.
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Victor.... there is no fighting.
At least not from me. Just expressing differences in opinions/views and others can take that and make a decision for themselves. We can agree to disagree... but that doesn't mean we are fight or arguing. I agree, sometimes, things can get heated but I don't think we are at that pt and I don't think it would. I have known all along that you guys are riding Mills and not once have I demeaned you or anyone else for doing so.

I did, however, suggested that you keep things on the DL which I thought was reasonable due to this being controversial.
 
According to @Mathers that ride just grazed Mills Reservation, and those features appear to be in Hilltop Reservation instead, which happens to be perfectly legal, as just last week there was a JORBA supported kid race there...sorry, but the 1% patch is still a no go, pirate's skull and bones will have to do for now! Maybe we can all ride RW then post the ride on Strava and call it 'Eagle Rock Reservation' to start a major riot!
 
serviceguy said:
Hilltop Reservation instead, which happens to be perfectly legal, as just last week there was a JORBA supported kid race there
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Hilltop Reservation is also an Essex County park and is not legal to ride either. I assume they get a special permit for the kids race.
 
Paul H said:
I don't think Hartshorne or Clayton is either... but still not understanding your pt.
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Hart's, aka elevation central, is legal. Although there are a couple tiny non bike trails and there are some rogue trails. The park system are run by fascist super troopers, so you can get in abbit of trouble, espscially if you ride the farm (horsey) sode of huber.

Not weighing in on the argument, just clarifying my local trail rules.

Edit: I see you were specifically talking about JORBA. See fascist statement above.
 
JimN said:
You are totally wrong on this. But I wouldn't worry about it or stop riding there.
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Speaking of HM.... NJNJTC site used to specifically say biking was allowed in HM
Went on the site today and looks like it has been revamped and I see nothing on there that says whether or not if its allowed.
 
What exactly is the topic of this thread? 1500+ pages (and counting) in a year, so must be VERY popular, but I can't figure it out. Someone enlighten me please!
 
JimN said:
Hilltop Reservation is also an Essex County park and is not legal to ride either. I assume they get a special permit for the kids race.
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It would seem so, not a word on the Essex County parks website. Yet, according the NY/NJ Trail Conference Hilltop is legal while Mills reservation is not.

Essex County obviously doesn't advertise it.

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JimN said:
Biking is allowed at HM. All the fun trails are rogue trails though.
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It used to be satisfying, when pissed off hikers would blatantly lie and tell ppl biking is not allowed in HM, to tell them to go look at the nynjt and Wayne township website.
 
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