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I'd like to start taking a good multi vitamin. I'm not interested in swallowing 10 monster pills a day. What's good for an active woman? I've tried different things in the past, but never really felt a difference and didn't stick w/ them. So curious to hear what everyone's doing....
 
I don't belong in this thread... but I recommend some juicing instead of taking pills. Pills are chemicals anyway. There is nothing better than juicing veggies and fruits.
 
I'd like to start taking a good multi vitamin. I'm not interested in swallowing 10 monster pills a day. What's good for an active woman? I've tried different things in the past, but never really felt a difference and didn't stick w/ them. So curious to hear what everyone's doing....

IMO most "multi" vitamins do not have nearly enough potency in the ingredients to do anything. I take vitamins separately to insure correct potency. High on the list for women (or any endurance athlete training more than 6 hrs per week) is Iron. Here is a top ten list http://www.a-z-health.com/iron-man-nutrients_f106

RC
 
Very good thread. I'm with Rob on juicing and eating lots of fruits and vegies. i got into this b/c Art had osteoporosis and i was looking to help feed him the right foods. End result: I ate them too and felt better. I also take calcium as recommended by my Dr b/c I am over 50. I have been taking iron and B12 on my own choice, and it seems to help with my energy levels as an athlete.
 
Pixy, you said Art "had" osteoporosis....does that mean he was able to reverse the bone loss? I have 'osteopenia', the precursor to osteoporosis.

I was totally bummed out to hear that because I believed what I read, that eating dairy products was supposed to prevent bone density loss. NOT! I stopped eating meat years ago and relied to a large extent on dairy for protein, among other foods. That and the unfortunate fact that I was a major ice cream addict for most of my life 😱.

I just found out I have hypothyroidism, my cortisol level is high, blood pressure is low, and I'm deficient in Vit. D, despite the fact that I've been taking 1000 mgs of Vit. D3 with calcium for the past year. I'm a bloody mess! 😡

Sorry if this may be off topic, but I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has or had hypothyroidism. It's new to me and I like to find out everything I can about any health problems I get. I am going to an endocrinologist in a week or 2.
 
I use a hypoallergenic line of vitamins that I order through my doctor. The vitamin company is Pure Encapsulations. They are great because there isn't any extra stuff in them that you don't need. I think if you go to their website you may be able to find a doctor who works with them.

I take a multi-vitamin, calcium with vitamin D and 3 other supplements for a few issues I am attempting to treat without procedures or prescription medications. In my case I can't take iron, so my multi-vitamin is without it.

Since I started taking the supplements (which I introduced in stages) I have noticed huge improvements with my disc issues and digestive system, I have a lot more energy, I don't get sick as often and generally feel much better than when I wasn't taking them.
 
I take the RAW ONE for men by Garden of Life... Available for women as well...Here is a link if you want to look into as see if something that interest you

http://www.gardenoflife.com/


Just wanted to add that a good multi is a great alternative for people on the move that can't juice
 
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Thanks for all the great input--Now I'm totally confused.....Kidding. It's interesting to hear all the different things we do for health. There's so many Avenues out there. I'm starting w/ a multi vitamin right away, then plan to try some things suggested. I've been wanting to juice too. We have one already--have to dig it out of the basement and use it !
 
Thanks for all the great input--Now I'm totally confused.....Kidding. It's interesting to hear all the different things we do for health. There's so many Avenues out there. I'm starting w/ a multi vitamin right away, then plan to try some things suggested. I've been wanting to juice too. We have one already--have to dig it out of the basement and use it !

We have medical people in our family.I have asked the doctors about vitamins the response usually is the same.No one in the US needs to take a vitamin who eats a balanced meal.But if you are diagnosed with a vitamin problem like your body flushes out a vitamin.A vitamin will be prescribed for the loss.Prescribtion vitamins are better than over the counter.They also say there is no study that says a vitamin supplement makes one feel or perform better.My doctor says fish oil and coQ10 are good to take.
 
We have medical people in our family.I have asked the doctors about vitamins the response usually is the same.No one in the US needs to take a vitamin who eats a balanced meal.But if you are diagnosed with a vitamin problem like your body flushes out a vitamin.A vitamin will be prescribed for the loss.Prescribtion vitamins are better than over the counter.They also say there is no study that says a vitamin supplement makes one feel or perform better.My doctor says fish oil and coQ10 are good to take.

The problem is that is very hard to get balanced meal these days and doctors have no business in advocating vitamins. After all their getting paid by big pharmaceutical companies to sell all this "wonderful" drugs. I suggest you do some serious research on this matter. It's real eye opener.
 
The problem is that is very hard to get balanced meal these days and doctors have no business in advocating vitamins. After all their getting paid by big pharmaceutical companies to sell all this "wonderful" drugs. I suggest you do some serious research on this matter. It's real eye opener.

I agree here... I believe as balance of a diet as you can as well as a supplement... Whether that been in the form of juicing or multi



The spinach of yesterday isn't the spinach of today....
http://www.clear-for-life.com/2010/are-fruits-and-vegetables-getting-less-nutritious/
 
Pixy, you said Art "had" osteoporosis....does that mean he was able to reverse the bone loss? I have 'osteopenia', the precursor to osteoporosis.

I was totally bummed out to hear that because I believed what I read, that eating dairy products was supposed to prevent bone density loss. NOT! I stopped eating meat years ago and relied to a large extent on dairy for protein, among other foods. That and the unfortunate fact that I was a major ice cream addict for most of my life 😱.

I just found out I have hypothyroidism, my cortisol level is high, blood pressure is low, and I'm deficient in Vit. D, despite the fact that I've been taking 1000 mgs of Vit. D3 with calcium for the past year. I'm a bloody mess! 😡

Sorry if this may be off topic, but I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has or had hypothyroidism. It's new to me and I like to find out everything I can about any health problems I get. I am going to an endocrinologist in a week or 2.

I believe what Art has is osteopenia as well. Hip replacement and been on fosamax too long. Vit D def as well. The doctors do not know why. There seems to be a need for more research on this subject. Did you know that you can absorb Vit D from the sun? I have this theory that maybe all this D deficiency may be from people not going outside and exposing them selves to some sun. Americans in general take things to extreme: I think some daily sun may be good, just don't major burn yourself.

There also seems to be much not understood how things absorb. Some vitamins absorb in certain combinations that come in food in it's natural raw form.
 
We have medical people in our family.I have asked the doctors about vitamins the response usually is the same.No one in the US needs to take a vitamin who eats a balanced meal.But if you are diagnosed with a vitamin problem like your body flushes out a vitamin.A vitamin will be prescribed for the loss.Prescribtion vitamins are better than over the counter.They also say there is no study that says a vitamin supplement makes one feel or perform better.My doctor says fish oil and coQ10 are good to take.

I could not disagree more. Most (99.9%) Doctors don't have a clue when it comes to vitamins.
 
Something else to think about:

http://news.yahoo.com/vitamins-may-increase-womens-risk-dying-research-finds-212402256.html

Popping vitamins may do more harm than good, according to a new study that adds to a growing body of evidence suggesting some supplements may have health risks.

Researchers from the University of Minnesota examined data from more than 38,000 women taking part in the Iowa Women's Health Study, an ongoing study with women who were around age 62 at its start in 1986. The researchers collected data on the women's supplement use in 1986, 1997 and 2004.

Women who took supplements had, on average, a 2.4 percent increased risk of dying over the course of the 19-year study, compared with women who didn't take supplements, after the researchers adjusted for factors including the women's age and calorie intake.

"Our study, as well as other similar studies, have provided very little evidence that commonly used dietary supplements would help to prevent chronic diseases," said study author Jaakko Mursu, an epidemiologist at the University of Minnesota School of Public Health.

"We would advise people to reconsider whether they need to use supplements, and put more emphasis on a healthy diet instead," Mursu said.

A toxic combination?

The new study linked a number of individual vitamins and minerals to the slight mortality risk, including multivitamins, vitamin B6, folic acid, iron, magnesium, zinc and copper.

For example, of the 12,769 women in the study who took a daily multivitamin, 40.8 percent had died by the end of 2008, whereas 39.8 percent of the 10,161 women who hadn't taken a daily multivitamin had died.

Mursu said that the design of the study did not allow the researchers to determine if there was a specific cause for the increased mortality.

"However, we do know that most compounds are toxic in high amounts, and long-term use might predispose [a person] to detrimental outcomes," he told MyHealthNewsDaily.

The increased chance of dying" could be related to generally high concentration of compounds that these supplements contain. Most supplements contain higher amounts of nutrients than would be derived from food, and it is known that several compounds can be toxic in higher amounts, especially when consumed for a long time, as some of these accumulate to body," Mursu said.

Taking calcium supplements, on the other hand, actually seemed to lower the women's death risk slightly, by 3.8 percent, although the researchers noted that there was not a relationship between consuming increasingly higher amounts of calcium and a continuing decrease in mortality rate.

Less is more

While vitamins and minerals are necessary for proper nutrition, excess intake has not shown further benefit, and recent studies have cast some doubt on the idea that vitamin supplements provide a "safety net" for people not getting enough of a given nutrient. Instead, too much may be a problem.

The study, published today (Oct. 10) in the journal Archives of Internal Medicine, is part of a series examining interventions in medicine that may be unnecessary.

"Until recently, the available data regarding the adverse effects of dietary supplements has been limited and grossly underreported. We think the paradigm "the more, the better" is wrong," wrote Dr. Goran Bjelakovic and Dr. Christian Gluud, of the Center for Clinical Intervention Research at Copenhagen University Hospital in Denmark in an accompanying commentary.

"We believe that for all micronutrients, risks are associated with insufficient and too-large intake. Low levels of intake increase the risk of deficiency. High levels of intake increase the risk of toxic effects and disease," they wrote.

"Therefore, we believe that politicians and regulatory authorities should wake up to their responsibility to allow only safe products on the market," they wrote.
 
Something else to think about:

http://news.yahoo.com/vitamins-may-increase-womens-risk-dying-research-finds-212402256.html

Popping vitamins may do more harm than good....Women who took supplements had, on average, a 2.4 percent increased risk of dying over the course of the 19-year study.......


An increased chance of dying over a 19 year study? It was all those extra trips to GNC that done it!

Why it's like my great, great, great grandpappy who died because of whiskey. Yep, he was walking down to the saloon and a wheel broke off of a truck and mowed grandpappy right down in the street. If it weren't for grandpappy walking to the saloon wanting that whiskey, he might be alive today!😀

Seriously, there are way too many possible factors in a study like this and very few controls. Sure they might have overdone some vitamins but I'd say the people who took them probably also exercised more and took more risks.

In fact, I think simply being in the study was the biggest risk factor for death because during the course of the study 9,254 people kicked the bucket. That's nearly half of all the participants!
 
I'd like to start taking a good multi vitamin. I'm not interested in swallowing 10 monster pills a day. What's good for an active woman? I've tried different things in the past, but never really felt a difference and didn't stick w/ them. So curious to hear what everyone's doing....

I know you don't want to take lots of big vitamins but since not one of us is the same physiologically, dietarily or chemically, I'd suggest you look at a number of single nutrient vitamins to adequately balance your needs. While they may be better than nothing, a multi-vitamin might give you too much of one nutrient and not nearly enough of another.

I have B's for nerve health and the energy boost they provide, D's since I tend to be very deficient, acidophilus, CoQ-10, magnesium, chromium picolinate and cranberry. I don't take any of them daily but use them to supplement my nutritional needs as they come up. I eat my full share of spinach, kale and broccoli and don't even need to bother with iron tabs. Milk, I can't tolerate and cheese and ice cream are on my very rarely eat list so calcium is in my cabinet and BTW if you're taking D, take calcium along with it to help absorb the D.

I think vitamin supplementing is personal and individual and you might just need one or even a few of the right nutrients to get that energy boost you're looking for without overdoing everything else.
 
Cycopath....opps!! I mean Cyclopath😉 (You know I already told you I love your zany sense of humor dahling!😀)

My belated condolences on your poor ole G, G, G, Grandpappy.😀

:hmmm: I tend to have trouble with a lot of clinical studies myself. One reason is because there are always new studies on a similar topic coming out with results that seem to contradict each other. One week something is good for you and the next it's bad.😕

And there are so many variables that can play a part in the outcome of a medical study. A lot of them don't seem to take into account that each human being is "uniquely unique". Basically, we are all a "one off". There is no one else alive that has our exact genetic construction.

So we are all going to respond differently to what we put into our body, and how we treat our body. We're also going to respond differently to what is happening in our lives at any given moment, which can also affect any of our internal biological processes.

Having dealt with a chronic medical condition since childhood, I've come to believe that we have to be our own best advocate when it comes to our health. Meaning we have to come to know our bodies intimately, do our own research from multiple sources and not believe everything we read or are told by our physicians (yeah, I've come across some complete wackos out there so I'm biased in that area). And don't do or take anything to extremes.

It takes experimenting with foods and/or supplements and learning how we respond or are affected by them. Time consuming yes, but if that's what it takes than that's what we do if we're seeking optimal health.

Sorry for getting so preachy sounding, but I've always liked what Hippocrates said so very,very long ago about the whole subject:

"Let thy food be thy medicine, and thy medicine thy food." 🙂
 
I think ur right on, Rosie...Tonight, stuffed portabellas with fresh garlic,mozzarella, and baby spinach. I'm taking a multi too--just for the heck of it.
 
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