Tarroneus
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Silly question but I have a knack for asking the obvious ones. You forwarded this to the detective, right?
I did.
Silly question but I have a knack for asking the obvious ones. You forwarded this to the detective, right?
geezLet's be careful out there...
Guy seems like a complete and utter nutjob. Hopefully the cops will ensure that there are consequences for his actions.Let's be careful out there...
A SOMO effort will open a huge can of worms, as it has for 20 years. What's going on at WR may have popped the lid open a little.If our case at Watchung is any indication, your efforts to legitimize riding in SM will bring out the irrationals/crazies like this guy. Fortunately in our (Watchung) case, the County identified that the MTB community was the voice of reason, and the crazies were the vocal minority. I know there was some serious let-down in prior efforts with Essex County, but if you do choose to take on legalizing riding in SM, I suggest the organized, diplomatic approach. Fill the room at Essex County Freeholders meetings. It worked for us.
I understand the "don't talk about fight club" attitude has been in place for years at SM as it was at WR. In the case of WR, finally talking about it seems to be yielding a result beyond our expectations (for the good). Can't say this will be the case for SM because I've never ridden there and don't know much about the inner workings of Essex County politics. But yes, hopefully success at WR will tilt the possibilities at SM in the right direction.A SOMO effort will open a huge can of worms, as it has for 20 years. What's going on at WR may have popped the lid open a little.
What a bunch of tools those guys are. Seen these types before. The guys who post this stuff you never have to worry about. They would never do anything remotely close to what they sayLet's be careful out there...
I understand the "don't talk about fight club" attitude has been in place for years at SM as it was at WR. In the case of WR, finally talking about it seems to be yielding a result beyond our expectations (for the good). Can't say this will be the case for SM because I've never ridden there and don't know much about the inner workings of Essex County politics. But yes, hopefully success at WR will tilt the possibilities at SM in the right direction.
Yes Ken told me the JORBA/SOMO debacle story. As I said I don't know much about Essex Politics, but you could say similar things about Union. The event that spurred us to organize in Union was the musical signs with the taking down, then putting back up of no bikes signs. This pretty much required we act, and the result was positive. Maybe this vigilante justice stuff going on at SM is a similar call to action. I got my hands full with Watchung now but anyone feel free to message me for advice/insight on what worked (and didn't) for our efforts at WR.Essex County is far worse than Union County when it comes to politics. Joe D is a corrupt slimeball that somehow finds a way to stay in power. I recall that JORBA was looking to partner with the South Mountain Conservancy a few years back and did a bunch of trail maintenance there, but it was for naught. I attended a few of the meetings and they went nowhere.
@Shorepoints I don't think there's any active advocacy going on for mountain biking in Essex County parks at the moment. Perhaps different than Union Co, there's not a whole lot of enforcement of the "no mtb" laws, so it's more of a live-and-let-live atmosphere than in Union Co. The real problem is the vigilantes, and frankly I don't think that problem would go away even if MTB was legalized.
Former FBI agent. Does not like fatbikes .Clearly injuring someone or possibly worse is much better that slight trail erosion if any This guy is screaming "Low intelligence"
Another self entitled person.Former FBI agent. Does not like fatbikes .