2015 MTBNJ Event Calendar

stb222

Love Drunk
Jerk Squad
True then.. He was also riding a Kelly Singlespeed before anybody else ever had a singlespeed. He is cutting edge.. I wonder what's next??

That's why I said we will know about 1 years in advance of when the fat bike craze is going to happen because it will be when jim tries something different.
 

ChrisG

Unapologetic Lifer for Rock and Roll
That's why I said we will know about 1 years in advance of when the fat bike craze is going to happen because it will be when jim tries something different.
He's gonna be looking for a sidehack partner in 2017.
 

Mitch

Well-Known Member
Team MTBNJ Halter's
He's gonna be looking for a sidehack partner in 2017.

Too late G.. bilinky side hack.jpg
 

Norm

Mayor McCheese
Team MTBNJ Halter's
Not sure if it has been figured out yet, but they have been $15 in the past as I recall.

Say $17 this year. Trying to help the BSA a bit. Total cost with BikeReg gouge is still under $20.
 

gtluke

The Moped
If we only knew an unemployed PHP programmer that could get us around giving thousands of dollars a year to bikereg.
 

soundz

The Hat
Team MTBNJ Halter's
If we only knew an unemployed PHP programmer that could get us around giving thousands of dollars a year to bikereg.

If only indeed.

It's really about $'s that go to credit card processing. If it was just about setting up a site, we could throw up PHP OpenCart and mtbNJ can do away with BikeReg. So basically this is the type of costs you're looking at to do it on your own:

https://www.authorize.net/solutions/merchantsolutions/pricing/

It may be worth the monthly costs if mtbNJ hosts enough races. Maybe add in some merchandise as well, but someone will have to ship it out.
 
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gtluke

The Moped
Bitcoin has virtually no processing costs. ;)
Just do it with paypal. Or cash day of for the short track.
 

Patrick

Overthinking the draft from the basement already
Staff member
People follow their $$, so cash-day-of is risky.

IMHO - when i pay the processing fee to bikereg, i'm paying for them to remember my events, keep some of my info on file, and the ability to search events - although the goog would do fine for something like this.

As a promoter, you are paying for their consistent organization of races/results and whatever other tracking they have.....

Paypal is going to charge $30/month for having the account, then 3%+$.30/tx - unless selling t-shirts & other misc to help fund it, probably just too much overhead for 6ish races.

Bikereg also has the leverage to fight chargebacks (when a person claims they didn't get what was advertised, or fraud) - they are $20 each, whether you win or lose the appeal on paypal.

Now say a few of us got together and purchased compuscore....just sayin.

just glancing at the fee schedule - looks like bikereg costs about $1 more per person per event....
 
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Patrick

Overthinking the draft from the basement already
Staff member
What about something like the Donate button?

The paypal Donate or Pay Now buttons link to the same back end - the Donate is for non-profits, I don't think a not-for-profit can use it. (but that isn't important) non-profits get a preferred rate from the back-end, as except for fraud, rarely get chargebacks.

Still have the same costs on the back as other paypal services.
chip-in doesn't work anymore, i don't think - but is also a non-optimal solution.
 

Norm

Mayor McCheese
Team MTBNJ Halter's
It's really about $'s that go to credit card processing. If it was just about setting up a site, we could throw up PHP OpenCart and mtbNJ can do away with BikeReg. So basically this is the type of costs you're looking at to do it on your own:

https://www.authorize.net/solutions/merchantsolutions/pricing/

It may be worth the monthly costs if mtbNJ hosts enough races. Maybe add in some merchandise as well, but someone will have to ship it out.

Well, we are doing merchandising this year. We sort of finalized some details yesterday.

So let's say we have 4 ST races, the Stewart race, and a cross race. Let's run this example with these numbers:

ST: 4 races, $17 each, 75 people per event, 300 total
Stewart: 1 race, $60 each, 250 people
CX: 1 race, $30 each, 200 people

Cumulative numbers:

6 races
$26,100 income
740 transactions

Cost of this:

$49 setup
$25 a month, so $300 for the year
30 cents per transactions = $222
2.9% of your total income = $756.90

TCO = $1327.90

That comes out to $1.79 per transaction to run this. I just looked at my Westwood CX race receipt and it was $2.80 to BikeReg. Now, the more expensive races are going to have more of a service charge, correct?

Did I screw up my math? Looking at this model, we could increase all our fees $2, do away with the need for BikeReg, make at least 20 cents more per racer, and eliminate all hidden service fees.
 
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