This Thread Blows - C19 and beyond

[Mahnken]

someone else posted here a few days ago but here it is:

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-in-pregnant-woman-high-nyc.html

My wife says there is a lot of weird stuff going on in labor and delivery. More fetal demises than usual. There's a bunch of stroke like symptoms. They even called a rapid response on a nurse with a change in mental status. To that point, my sister is on a neuro floor and has been getting 'clean' stroke patients that develop respiratory symptoms in a day or two and test positive for covid. Looks like there's some kind of neurological component to it too.

 

[Tim]

There are negative test(1in 3 as per nrp) if the opportunity presents its self for retesting she should take it

I do hope your MIL is feeling better.

My son had similar symptoms for 13 days - fever, fatigue, body aches, cough, aching ribs from coughing, etc. He was tested on Day 11, the results of which came back negative. Every doctor and medical professional that we have spoken with believe that despite the results, he was COVID positive. It seems as if 30-35% of tests are false negatives, and there are stories like Nick Cordero who tested positive after 2 negative results.

I am not sure what would have been harder for us to deal with emotionally - if he tested positive on Day 3 or the uncertainty of the negative on Day 11. We will not know for sure until there is accurate antibody screening available. All that being said, he was 4 days fever free on Easter Sunday. While that is behind us, it will take him a long to to recover physically and mentally from this experience.

So I got my results yesterday...negative. I am positive it is a false negative. ? If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck...

I won't know for sure until there is antibody testing.

The interesting thing is instead of going in the confirmed infected and recovered columns, I am in the tested negative column. If 35% of tested negatives are false then our numbers of infections, severe infections, mortality, and recovery are way off. As far as the data is concerned it's GIGO.

 

[Patrick]

The trend seems more important than actual right now. I agree the antibody test will paint a clearer picture for restart. Hopefully that is accurate. I wonder if they will do the full test for asymptomatic positives? How would you know if you were still contagious?

 

[JimN]

There's a bunch of stroke like symptoms.

Interestingly, they said that they thought my grandma might have had a stroke. They did some kind of test though and said she didn't. She was really out of it and not communicative the first few days.

 

[Mathers]

Stimulus check came today - almost $3,500. Who said having kids would never pay off!
I can make the mortgage this month and pay off those sweet carbon wheels I bought pre-pandemic.

What’s the word on the Orbea Frame

 

[A Potted Plant]

Wondering if our kids go to the same place. I'm still paying since they're not closed, even though she hasn't been there in a few weeks. Pretty much what we have to do so she has a spot to go back to.

I withdrew my son till this blows over its the hospital daycare so they're staying open we're out our deposit but w.e. I don't want to be out 3500 in my fsa too..

 

[A Potted Plant]

So I got my results yesterday...negative. I am positive it is a false negative. ? If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck...

I won't know for sure until there is antibody testing.

The interesting thing is instead of going in the confirmed infected and recovered columns, I am in the tested negative column. If 35% of tested negatives are false then our numbers of infections, severe infections, mortality, and recovery are way off. As far as the data is concerned it's GIGO.

I ment 1/3 are false negatives woops

 

[xrjx]

I withdrew my son till this blows over its the hospital daycare so they're staying open we're out our deposit but w.e. I don't want to be out 3500 in my fsa too..

my kids' daycare is closed - and somehow still find it appropriate to charge us a reduced rate. about $350 per month between my 2 kids. does anyone else have kids in daycares that are closed? are they charging while not operating?

 

[rustynuts]

This has bikes in it. https://nypost.com/2020/04/13/chris-cuomo-trashes-cnn-gig-during-covid-19-meltdown/
Guess you can make fun of fat tire bike riders even when your supposed to quarantine in your house not near your family. I still enjoy my fat tire bike, get well soon Chris, even though on 4/14 you still had a low grade fever....

 

[Mahnken]

my kids' daycare is closed - and somehow still find it appropriate to charge us a reduced rate. about $350 per month between my 2 kids. does anyone else have kids in daycares that are closed? are they charging while not operating?

We have our 3 year old in a Montessori School. Made the last payment for the year right before they closed. If they refunded everyone there is no way they'd be able to open back up. We had no intention on asking for a refund when they closed. Hopefully the staff is still being paid. They have been doing 1 hour zoom classes everyday so that's been nice.

 

[xrjx]

We have our 3 year old in a Montessori School. Made the last payment for the year right before they closed. If they refunded everyone there is no way they'd be able to open back up. We had no intention on asking for a refund when they closed. Hopefully the staff is still being paid. They have been doing 1 hour zoom classes everyday so that's been nice.

gotcha - my kids daycare is a month to month arrangement that offers services year-round, so a little different

 

[ChrisRU]

I withdrew my son till this blows over its the hospital daycare so they're staying open we're out our deposit but w.e. I don't want to be out 3500 in my fsa too..

It depends on your employer, contact them. "Change in cost or coverage charges" is allowable as a change in status event for DC FSA under the IRS regs, but not all employers include this in their change in status/life events for mid year changes. There is also a possibility that the grace periods to spend down 2020 dependent care and healthcare FSA's will get extended into 2021, but that hasn't been proposed yet.

 

[TimBay]

Capitalist, Socialist, Nihilist, doesn't matter. Bet your ass this is how all systems work. You can bet at least 1 of your favorite coffee shop, watering hole, small local business will go under, but at least our tax dollars saved millionaire advisor Kudlow's wife's art business. I don't care that her assets make her a safe bet for the banks, any taxpayer (govt) action should go toward those in need, not a millionaire side-artist. I don't deem this post political as this would/is/will happen for either/any party.

Larry Kudlow says his WIFE is getting a small-business bailout

White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow revealed that his wife, Judith, is taking advantage of a Small Business Administration-backed loan to keep her art business afloat.

www.google.com

 

[Tim]

I ment 1/3 are false negatives woops

I knew exactly what you meant. That rate of inaccuracy is pretty staggering.

Forget the numbers and data. There is another side to this and I'll use myself as an example. I would bet a large sum of money that I had the Rona, but as I mentioned, my test came back negative. That means no mandatory 14 day quarantine. No health department oversight. No quarantine for my family (although I isolated from them during the illness). I went for a bike ride 2 days ago. Was I spewing COVID out everywhere? I went to work. Did I expose others? Is the high percentage of false negatives potentially spreading the virus under a false sense of safety?

 

[Patrick]

I knew exactly what you meant. That rate of inaccuracy is pretty staggering.

Forget the numbers and data. There is another side to this and I'll use myself as an example. I would bet a large sum of money that I had the Rona, but as I mentioned, my test came back negative. That means no mandatory 14 day quarantine. No health department oversight. No quarantine for my family (although I isolated from them during the illness). I went for a bike ride 2 days ago. Was I spewing COVID out everywhere? I went to work. Did I expose others? Is the high percentage of false negatives potentially spreading the virus under a false sense of safety?

Given you were sick, and knew you were sick, you probably did a better job at not spreading it relative to asymptomatic people.

 

[rlb]

my kids' daycare is closed - and somehow still find it appropriate to charge us a reduced rate. about $350 per month between my 2 kids. does anyone else have kids in daycares that are closed? are they charging while not operating?

For 2 kids, that sounds like they're just trying to pay the rent on the building. We've been at 2 different daycares and both were similar, you agree to pay while enrolled regardless of whether you're attending. While this is a bit unprecedented, it falls under that umbrella.

My kid also goes to the hospital run daycare, and it's still open. However, we choose to keep her home. That means we still have to pay, or withdraw from enrollment. If you withdraw, you forfeit your 1 month deposit. I was hedging my bet on only being out for 1 month....

 

[Tim]

Given you were sick, and knew you were sick, you probably did a better job at not spreading it relative to asymptomatic people.

That is true. I didn't even hug my wife or kid for over a week.

 

[Norm]

That rate of inaccuracy is pretty staggering.

But you're basing this on a supposition. The testing might be inaccurate. Or it might not. Our news cycle loves to headline the explosive things, like when I saw CNN's headline about needing to homeschool the kids until 2022. They usually fail to mention how accurate that headline may or may not be.

In this case, you can't really run with the argument aside from hypotehticals because it's based on a maybe or possibly. Which, I mean, for a conversation is fine. But I would wager that when all is said and done, the inaccuracy rate won't be quite so bad.

 

[rlb]

That is true. I didn't even hug my wife or kid for over a week.

The wife of my co-worker was pretty sure she had it. She eventually got tested, but I don't know what the outcome was. She stayed in the basement for 18 days!

 

[BPaze]

gotcha - my kids daycare is a month to month arrangement that offers services year-round, so a little different

Daycare closed for April and didn’t charge me, but I paid for march and he barely went. No indication on Which way they will go in may yet.