the NOT SO official 27.5+ thread.

[SmooveP]

The pedal strike issue seems to be a common complaint on 27.5+ FS bikes. I've experienced it on my Yeti SB5+. I suspect it's a combination of suspension sag, tire squish and the desire for a low center of gravity by the designers. I got thrown down hard the first time it happened and have had to change my riding style to avoid it.

 

[jdog]

The pedal strike issue seems to be a common complaint on 27.5+ FS bikes. I've experienced it on my Yeti SB5+. I suspect it's a combination of suspension sag, tire squish and the desire for a low center of gravity by the designers. I got thrown down hard the first time it happened and have had to change my riding style to avoid it.

My Hightower will pedal strike like crazy with over 30% sag, while at 25% sag it isn’t an issue.

That said, I’m careful to consider sag on this bike. I noticed that when it got cold, the Bike certianly sat lower into the travel.

Suspension setup is vital on all Bikes, but with the newer Long and Low geos, becomes even more important

 

[qclabrat]

My Hightower will pedal strike like crazy with over 30% sag, while at 25% sag it isn’t an issue.

That said, I’m careful to consider sag on this bike. I noticed that when it got cold, the Bike certianly sat lower into the travel.

Suspension setup is vital on all Bikes, but with the newer Long and Low geos, becomes even more important

how cold are you saying? I did notice more sag as of recent and just thought my shock needed a rebuild.

 

[CrankAddictRich]

I've found that I'm getting a lot more pedal strikes now on my Fuse 6Fattie than I did on my Fatboy, which is odd, because looking at the dimensions they're only off by about 1cm.

 

[Magic]

how cold are you saying? I did notice more sag as of recent and just thought my shock needed a rebuild.

Pressure fluctuates with temperature just like car tires. It doesn’t start at a certain temperature, it’s always changing. Just check sag whenever there’s a large change. Also, don’t set sag in a warm garage when you ride outside in the winter.

 

[MadisonDan]

Pressure fluctuates with temperature just like car tires. It doesn’t start at a certain temperature, it’s always changing. Just check sag whenever there’s a large change. Also, don’t set sag in a warm garage when you ride outside in the winter.

 

[clarkenstein]

So I now have 70 miles on the Jamis Dragonslayer at three different parks (Six Mile, Sourlands, and Chimney Rock) and I wanted to throw out a quick review. I’m totally sold on the plus tire and this frame. The plus tires hook up real well and smooth things out too. The frame has that “warm” steel feel but it’s not a wet noodle.

For my size (6’4”) the XL is a perfect fit. It took a ride or two to get used to the handlebars (had a different sweep on my old bars) and after a little shifting around of shifters it feels like I’ve been riding this bike forever. I have lots of confidence in the corners and the dropper post is the greatest addition to riding ever. I use it a lot more than I thought I would. It makes steeps and downhills a lot more fun.

At 6MR it’s just fine in the tight turns. No over/under steer issues. Very predictable coming in and going out of corners. My last bike had some oversteering issues (very floppy) in the tight stuff so it’s a nice change. At the Sourlands it’s just fine in the rocks, and the gearing is great for grinding up the hill in the technical stuff (when I’m not forced to walk). Normally the chatter of all the rocks at CR would get to me after about a half hour on my old hardtail. This bike definitely soaks it up and smooths it out. A really different experience.

If you are thinking about going to a plus size tire bike definitely check this bike out.

 

[Gnick]

I've found that I'm getting a lot more pedal strikes now on my Fuse 6Fattie than I did on my Fatboy, which is odd, because looking at the dimensions they're only off by about 1cm.

i get lots of pedal strikes - super low bb. awesome in the corners though

 

[Gnick]

So I now have 70 miles on the Jamis Dragonslayer at three different parks (Six Mile, Sourlands, and Chimney Rock) and I wanted to throw out a quick review. I’m totally sold on the plus tire and this frame. The plus tires hook up real well and smooth things out too. The frame has that “warm” steel feel but it’s not a wet noodle.

For my size (6’4”) the XL is a perfect fit. It took a ride or two to get used to the handlebars (had a different sweep on my old bars) and after a little shifting around of shifters it feels like I’ve been riding this bike forever. I have lots of confidence in the corners and the dropper post is the greatest addition to riding ever. I use it a lot more than I thought I would. It makes steeps and downhills a lot more fun.

At 6MR it’s just fine in the tight turns. No over/under steer issues. Very predictable coming in and going out of corners. My last bike had some oversteering issues (very floppy) in the tight stuff so it’s a nice change. At the Sourlands it’s just fine in the rocks, and the gearing is great for grinding up the hill in the technical stuff (when I’m not forced to walk). Normally the chatter of all the rocks at CR would get to me after about a half hour on my old hardtail. This bike definitely soaks it up and smooths it out. A really different experience.

If you are thinking about going to a plus size tire bike definitely check this bike out.

i was looking at the jamis before i bought my fuse. glad to hear you like it. im going to need to try out a steel frame at some point. my next bike will likely be a decked out 27.5+ hard tail.

 

[Patrick]

i get lots of pedal strikes - super low bb. awesome in the corners though

i went to a little less than 25% sag per Gary, and it alleviated many of the random strikes - although the cold may also have something to do with it.

ran B+ on the front and 29 in the rear yesterday at nassau on the tallboy. I could feel that the back was lighter. Didn't change the link to drop
the rear triangle - will try that.

 

[RSAmerica]

Pressure fluctuates with temperature just like car tires. It doesn’t start at a certain temperature, it’s always changing. Just check sag whenever there’s a large change. Also, don’t set sag in a warm garage when you ride outside in the winter.

I always put my Ibis Mojo 3 outside for ~ 1/2 hour before setting the fork, shock & tire pressures. And if the temp changes a lot during a ride I will adjust the tire pressures.

 

[jtrain]

[/QUOTE]I have the 29r wheel set all ready to go, when we get the next dry/frozen day.[/QUOTE]

I am loving my tallboy and also noticed that I have to check the sag before each ride.
Was wondering how the 27.5 front and 29 rear worked out for you?

 

[Patrick]

I have the 29r wheel set all ready to go, when we get the next dry/frozen day.[/QUOTE]

I am loving my tallboy and also noticed that I have to check the sag before each ride.
Was wondering how the 27.5 front and 29 rear worked out for you?[/QUOTE]

i've been set-up like this for two rides pre-snow. Having a bit of a transmission problem, which i think is a bent der, so not getting the full experience, but the back of the bike seems significantly lighter. More to come when i get this straightened out.

 

[thegock]

Friday was new bike day. Then it started to rain again, so I only got one ride in. We don’t want to get the new whip too muddy, too soon.

If you look above in this thread on December 8, 2017, I did a review of the Stumpjumper FSR 6fattie in soft orange aluminum. The 6fattie has 3,800 miles on it and I rode it 16.5 miles last night. It excels on rough terrain.

I ride a lot, averaging 400 hours per year. Because the 6fattie was so comfortable and a good match for the trails that I hit, my thought was that a carbon version would be even more comfortable.

This is the Stumpjumper ST Expert 27 set up with 2.8” (F) Rekon and (R) Ikon+ tires. It has stock Eagle 1x12 with Guide brakes. The fork is a stock Pike 130mm. I had ridden a Pike for a couple of days last year and really enjoyed it on tech and big, loose rock trails. The cranks are carbon.

First impressions: The ST Expert is quite a bit stiffer pedaling, transmits power better and as a result is a quicker climber. For example, on my third ride I cleared a steep little knoll that I had tried 20 times on a trail-that-shall-not-be-named for the first time . The ST Expert @ about 28.6 lbs. without pedals and spare tube in SWAT is also 2.5. lbs lighter than the 6fattie, which is a contributing factor. The Pike is everything that I hoped that it would be with the ability to eat up most big rock gardens.

I was really pleased, and a bit pleasantly surprised by the quicker feel of the bike. The word that came to mind was "nimble". (If I had thought "playful", then this would be a review in a mountain bike magazine.) The bike is easier to steer through rock gardens, rather than just run things over, probably because it doesn't have the very slack front end of the 6fattie.

Only negative so far is the Schraeder valve for the rear shock protrudes to the left and hooks on my left knee armor often enough to be annoying.

I am really looking forward to riding TF out of it when mud season is over in New Jersey.

 

[qclabrat]

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Friday was new bike day. Then it started to rain again, so I only got one ride in. We don’t want to get the new whip too muddy, too soon.

If you look above on December 8, 2017, I did a review of the Stumpjumper FSR 6fattie in soft orange aluminum. The 6fattie has 3,800 miles on it and I rode it 16.5 miles last night. It excels on rough terrain.
I ride a lot, averaging 400 hours per year. Because the 6fattie was so comfortable and a good match for the trails that I hit, my thought was that a carbon version would be even more comfortable.

This is the Stumpjumper ST Expert 27 set up with 2.8” (F) Rekon and (R) Ikon+ tires. It has stock Eagle 1x12 with Guide brakes. The fork is a stock Pike 130mm. I had ridden a Pike for a couple of days last year and really enjoyed it on tech and big, loose rock trails. The cranks are carbon.

First impressions: The ST Expert is quite a bit stiffer pedaling, transmits power better and as a result is a quicker climber. The Pike is everything that I hoped that it would be with the ability to eat up most big rock gardens. The ST Expert is also 2.5 lbs lighter than the 6fattie, which is a contributing factor. I was really please and a bit pleasantly surprised by the quicker feel of the bike.

I am really looking forward to riding TF out of it when mud season is over in New Jersey.

Nice!!!
is the new linkage design noticeable in rough chatter? what's the bike weight as it sits?

 

[thegock]

Nice!!!
is the new linkage design noticeable in rough chatter? what's the bike weight as it sits?

Walt,

I don't notice any difference in the rear shock, but I am insensitive.

It's 29.6# with the pedals, some small lights and a tube in the swat.

 

[Juggernaut]

Congrats! Love the murdered out look. Hey, is that a SWAT door I see or just a reflection tricking me.

 

[thegock]

Congrats! Love the murdered out look. Hey, is that a SWAT door I see or just a reflection tricking me.

Yes, the swat door is on the top of the down tube. There is a tube in there, but running tubeless we hope to never open it.