This Thread Blows - C19 and beyond

I would not be surprised if I'm counted among those missing 2nd shots. Like Rick, I "moved" my 2nd CVS shot to be closer to home. They have no unique identifier for me to correlate the 2nd shot with the first. After securing the 2nd, I cancelled the initial 2nd.
 
I would not be surprised if I'm counted among those missing 2nd shots. Like Rick, I "moved" my 2nd CVS shot to be closer to home. They have no unique identifier for me to correlate the 2nd shot with the first. After securing the 2nd, I cancelled the initial 2nd.

They are doing market research on it above this metric. I got a call from someone as a general random survey asking if I had the first and was getting the second. I answered yes & yes. So there's an actual data point recorded by someone, from somewhere.

Problem with the above is the obvious question - was there a control done to start? Meaning, will they use this number and compare it to a number that was gathered in a different way? I mean this is the definition of junk science.

I would not read much into the 2nd shot statistics.
 
Good News

Per WSJ this morning: "By Tuesday, 37.3% of US adults were fully vaccinated." They go on to link this to a decline in the reported new cases of C19 and analyze the impact of the vax in Israel.

Mrs. G got her second Pfizer jab Monday with some mild side effects including fatigue.
 
well, i guess 1 shot is better than no shot. I've read that the first shot of Pfizer and Moderna are up to 85% effective. I just can't believe they are not saying that when you get the vaccine then you can go back to normal, no mask. Makes no sense to me. You would have a lot more people getting the vaccine if it meant we could ditch the masks and go back to normal. This approach of looking into the camera and shouting, "GET THE SHOT!!" is not working.
Would be nice for any sort of "X time after your first or second shot, please start living your life".

We were supposed to have book club on Sunday. Everyone is pretty much vaccinated as far as I know going. The person hosting, their wife cancelled because it was 1 week from her 2nd shot.

Whatever, I'm OK with it, but when does she, or should anyone else feel safe?

I deal with a few people at work who are fully vaccinated for awhile, including everyone in their family and they're still behaving like it's the end of the world.
 
Would be nice for any sort of "X time after your first or second shot, please start living your life".

We were supposed to have book club on Sunday. Everyone is pretty much vaccinated as far as I know going. The person hosting, their wife cancelled because it was 1 week from her 2nd shot.

Whatever, I'm OK with it, but when does she, or should anyone else feel safe?

I deal with a few people at work who are fully vaccinated for awhile, including everyone in their family and they're still behaving like it's the end of the world.
I thought it was 14 days after J&J or second Moderna of Pfizer was when you were considered "fully vaccinated"
 
I thought it was 14 days after J&J or second Moderna of Pfizer was when you were considered "fully vaccinated"

Vaccine Efficacy Rates​

Medicinal IngredientNumber of DosesRecommended Time Between DosesFirst Shot EfficacySecond Shot Efficacy
Pfizer-BioNTechmRNA2Recommended: First dose, then the second dose 21 days later NACI: Four months52.4 per cent effective, then 92.3 per cent effective after 14-21 days95 per cent effective in preventing COVID-19 one week later, with immunity developing over time
ModernamRNA2Recommended: First dose, then the second dose 28 days later NACI: Four months80.2 per cent effective, then 92.1 per cent effective after 14 days94.1 per cent effective in preventing COVID-19 two weeks later
AstraZenecaAdenovirus vector vaccine2Recommended: First dose, then the second dose 4-12 weeks later NACI: Four months76 per cent effective after 22-90 days82 per cent effective when the second dose is taken 12 weeks or more after the first dose, with immunity developing over time
Johnson & JohnsonAdenovirus vector vaccine1N/A66 per cent effective in preventing symptomatic COVID-19 disease two weeks later, with immunity developing over timeN/A

Source: Government of Canada and Ontario Ministry of Health​

 

Vaccine Efficacy Rates​

Medicinal IngredientNumber of DosesRecommended Time Between DosesFirst Shot EfficacySecond Shot Efficacy
Pfizer-BioNTechmRNA2Recommended: First dose, then the second dose 21 days later NACI: Four months52.4 per cent effective, then 92.3 per cent effective after 14-21 days95 per cent effective in preventing COVID-19 one week later, with immunity developing over time
ModernamRNA2Recommended: First dose, then the second dose 28 days later NACI: Four months80.2 per cent effective, then 92.1 per cent effective after 14 days94.1 per cent effective in preventing COVID-19 two weeks later
AstraZenecaAdenovirus vector vaccine2Recommended: First dose, then the second dose 4-12 weeks later NACI: Four months76 per cent effective after 22-90 days82 per cent effective when the second dose is taken 12 weeks or more after the first dose, with immunity developing over time
Johnson & JohnsonAdenovirus vector vaccine1N/A66 per cent effective in preventing symptomatic COVID-19 disease two weeks later, with immunity developing over timeN/A

Source: Government of Canada and Ontario Ministry of Health​

so yeah, "about" 2 weeks on average across the board... either way... I'm all set, ready to get back to more normal, except for NJTranShit and NYC Subway. Fuck the commute, I'll still use any excuse possible to not have to deal with that bullshit.... WFHLyfe
 
Canadian stats - what is the exchange rate ? 😀

so since we are all a bunch of liars, saying if vaccinated, ok to remove mask.
do you think anyone will wear a mask? we are at 4ish out of 10? so at least half should be wearing?
that doesn't count the people who will wear a mask for the rest of their life now....
in the car, alone, at 64mph on the highway, in the left lane.
 
so since we are all a bunch of liars, saying if vaccinated, ok to remove mask.
do you think anyone will wear a mask? we are at 4ish out of 10? so at least half should be wearing?

Who cares if people lie? As long as anyone that wants a vaccine can get one, there is no need for masks or social distancing anymore. They should just announce that in six weeks, all mask restrictions will be lifted. This gives everyone enough time to get fully vaccinated if they want to. We should be past the point where hospitals will be overwhelmed by then, which was the whole point of masks and social distancing. If someone doesn't want to get vaccinated then fuck 'em, let them risk getting covid.
 
Who cares if people lie? As long as anyone that wants a vaccine can get one, there is no need for masks or social distancing anymore. They should just announce that in six weeks, all mask restrictions will be lifted. This gives everyone enough time to get fully vaccinated if they want to. We should be past the point where hospitals will be overwhelmed by then, which was the whole point of masks and social distancing. If someone doesn't want to get vaccinated then fuck 'em, let them risk getting covid.

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I'm worn out - so i don't really care what people do anymore. Except whine. I can't stand whining.
 
Who cares if people lie? As long as anyone that wants a vaccine can get one, there is no need for masks or social distancing anymore. They should just announce that in six weeks, all mask restrictions will be lifted. This gives everyone enough time to get fully vaccinated if they want to. We should be past the point where hospitals will be overwhelmed by then, which was the whole point of masks and social distancing. If someone doesn't want to get vaccinated then fuck 'em, let them risk getting covid.

This - get vaccinated, return to normal. You are protected and you protect others. Move on. Burn your mask day is May 1!!

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Driver's license number?
Nope. Name and address. I guess that's close but not quite the cigar. Maybe a more accurate statement is that they don't try to correlate the multiple appointments or the web site would have popped up a warning that I already had a 2nd appointment scheduled.

10 minutes from walking in to surfing the web post-shot today.

If someone doesn't want to get vaccinated then fuck 'em, let them risk getting covid.

That's my general feeling but I'd sure hate to be part of the group that can't get the vaccine. I have no idea how many people that is.
 
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