Tariffs...what to make of them.

Captain Brainstorm said:
I think what's driving the disagreement here is that the Japanese that we detained were citizens that we imprisoned on suspicion of spying, etc. then we let them go after the war. For your analogy to work, they would need to residents of a territory that we captured in the war, but Japan refused to take them back and repatriate them after the war.

I hear the riding in Israel is pretty good, and its a safer experience than most people think. I would personally like to visit one of the East African countries, maybe Kenya or Tanzania.
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You also have to add the West Bank. I really like Tuscany to ride a road bike a lot of those switchbacks and the climbs were moderate. Went to Iceland in 22 but went for the Northern Lights but I would like to go back a ride gravel. They showed a lot of tours for gravel but June or July there is more light to ride.
 
John the Plumber said:
You also have to add the West Bank. I really like Tuscany to ride a road bike a lot of those switchbacks and the climbs were moderate. Went to Iceland in 22 but went for the Northern Lights but I would like to go back a ride gravel. They showed a lot of tours for gravel but June or July there is more light to ride.
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West Bank goes without saying. Since we're totally going off the reservation, Iceland is on the list for salmon and trout fishing, I hear its phenomenal there.
 
Captain Brainstorm said:
West Bank goes without saying. Since we're totally going off the reservation, Iceland is on the list for salmon and trout fishing, I hear its phenomenal there.
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Israel is pretty nice in the fact that everyone speaks English and they love Americans. And the food is amazing.
 
Poking around on https://doge.gov/savings and trying to make heads and tails about some of the savings being reported, especially under real-estate. How could your savings be more than your total lease cost.

I know I am cherry picking but if you do not renew the contract it's not on your books show how is it being considered savings. I did see some legit savings ones like below.

Edit: I wish I had a bit more insight into how they are making that claim and process they are using to make the decisions on what is being cut. If there is waste I am all for trimming. Similar to business world but I have also been in business area where they trimmed to the bones and cannot seem to recover from the cost cutting.
 

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DOGE is just a way for republicans to destroy any support systems left for the poor. Musk is doing the same thing he did to twitter, that is fire 75% of the staff and see what brakes and rehire people to fix it. Questionable way to run a business, utterly stupid way to run a government. Want to save on government spending? How about ending oil subsidies for the crazy profitable oil companies? Or about allowing Medicare/ Medicaid to negotiate drug prices rather than paying top dollar? Never going to happen, DOGE is about f-ing the poor, not corruption or spending.
 
How about this that each congress person can have up to 18 staff members and the max. pay can be around $172k
Senators can have up to 34 the data for this was around 2010 don't know the salary for these staff members.
When I went on congress,gov there is a block on it. You could start here for gov. waste this is the best part time job
you could ever have in and out of session and have others do your job to just vote. All I can say is TERM LIMITS but won't happen.
 
Always thought it would be a great idea to attach congress’s salaries to the minimum wage. Congress gives themselves a rase every other year, they have increased the minimum wage like 3 times in 20 years. As for term limits, this would have issues, you would end up with the only people that knew any thing in Washington would be the lobbyist. The legislative branch needs some old guard to tell the n00bs when they are being dumb.
 
scott62 said:
Always thought it would be a great idea to attach congress’s salaries to the minimum wage. Congress gives themselves a rase every other year, they have increased the minimum wage like 3 times in 20 years. As for term limits, this would have issues, you would end up with the only people that knew any thing in Washington would be the lobbyist. The legislative branch needs some old guard to tell the n00bs when they are being dumb.
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Who's going to tell the old guard?
 
dvaidya said:
Poking around on https://doge.gov/savings and trying to make heads and tails about some of the savings being reported, especially under real-estate. How could your savings be more than your total lease cost.

I know I am cherry picking but if you do not renew the contract it's not on your books show how is it being considered savings. I did see some legit savings ones like below.

Edit: I wish I had a bit more insight into how they are making that claim and process they are using to make the decisions on what is being cut. If there is waste I am all for trimming. Similar to business world but I have also been in business area where they trimmed to the bones and cannot seem to recover from the cost cutting.
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"How could your savings be more than your total lease cost."
the 2.5M lease is the annual cost. The savings assumes 5 years of that cost.
 
scott62 said:
Always thought it would be a great idea to attach congress’s salaries to the minimum wage. Congress gives themselves a rase every other year, they have increased the minimum wage like 3 times in 20 years. As for term limits, this would have issues, you would end up with the only people that knew any thing in Washington would be the lobbyist. The legislative branch needs some old guard to tell the n00bs when they are being dumb.
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Oh yea, then how are your hero's on "The Squad", like OAC, who are champions for the poor going to afford a new pair of Jimmy Choo's every week?
 
JPark said:
"How could your savings be more than your total lease cost."
the 2.5M lease is the annual cost. The savings assumes 5 years of that cost.
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Maybe I have it wrong but I thought the goal of DOGE was savings now and not what you are likely to save in the future. I guess I am being dense. if you have a contract for 5 years and you are cancelling the contract, agree you are saving money but if the contract is not renewed it shouldn't be counted as savings. Also, will DOGE take into account cost associated with contract cancellation and potential litigation cost as part of the cost saving, provide the other party has met all the obligation associated with the existing contract?

I am all for trimming if needed, I just do not understand the math being used. I am being stupid, I guess.

Has anyone heard anything about how Mexico and Canada are doing with the increase at border patrol? Also, what happens when 30 day reprieve is up?
 
Obviously none of us know the details of the lease but typically there is a way to terminate a lease early. I think the point is they can house that department in space already owned by the government instead of paying rent. Or maybe they could sublet the space to recoup some of the loss if it can't be terminated. Federal agencies tend to never go away so even if they're stuck in a 5 year lease they don't have to renew it when it's up.
 
The bill last night that was passed will add 3 trillion to the 36 trillion debt. This is for Billionaires, corporations and top 1%.
Where are the republicans that say, the only time the debt is important is when the Dems are in control. They have to raise revenue to pay it down.
The debt our children and grandchildren will inherit when these people don't pay any taxes and can hide their money offshore accounts.
 
JPark said:
"How could your savings be more than your total lease cost."
the 2.5M lease is the annual cost. The savings assumes 5 years of that cost.
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The research is in the public domain. DOGE claimed to have saved $16BB, but facts seem to support only 2.6". I meant to type billion, sorry

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