This is the best solution but again, something of that magnitude ain't gonna happen overnight. The reason i thought i heard from YEARS ago when this section was "soft closed" was that the trail popped out on Canal Rd and that was dangerous. Closing this section and riding on MORE of Canal Rd to "complete the loop" does seem counterintuitive but i don't think "completing the loop" is something that the park understands or cares about. They don't think like a rider and just see plenty of non-directional trail. JORBA needs to make its case and work this out through the proper channels.Is there any way to attach a walkway on the side of the current bridge rather than a complete new structure?
no apologies needed, lots of info to sift thruSorry, missed the fact that the current trail terminates at Canal Road is the only issue.
Is there any way to attach a walkway on the side of the current bridge rather than a complete new structure?
That is our perception. If we were developing a trail plan for that area without any existing trails, dumping riders out onto Canal would not be a viable option. From a liability standpoint I can see clearly why it was closed.Sorry, missed the fact that the current trail terminates at Canal Road is the only issue.
As the “Why?” of the closure is being discussed in this thread, I’m having recollections of the community being told, long ago, that this section encroaches on private property.It doesn't help that the trail built without permission, and with a handful of very much unsustainable sections.
Somerset County is responsible for Canal Rd. Their Roadway Safety Study (Dec. '21) mentions the word bicycle 144 times, and has people on bikes displayed on the cover. How many Somerset County residents attend meetings and give feedback on unsafe roads like Canal, Jacques and many others in that area? Canal Rd. is listed at 17 in the top 20 crash prone areas of the county in the study.Super surprised a shoulder or path wasn't put in during the rebuild as it is. Shows how low priority cycling in general is.
The County only maintains a small section of Canal Rd. The section at the Park is Franklin Township responsibly.Somerset County is responsible for Canal Rd. Their Roadway Safety Study (Dec. '21) mentions the word bicycle 144 times, and has people on bikes displayed on the cover. How many Somerset County residents attend meetings and give feedback on unsafe roads like Canal, Jacques and many others in that area? Canal Rd. is listed at 17 in the top 20 crash prone areas of the county in the study.
We've tried to crest 1000 annual members in JORBA for over 10 years with no luck. The cycling industry has tons of issues, and lack of a unified voice in nearly every advocacy situation is one of them.
While I am not a bike / ped planner, I do work in a bike / ped planning department. Like anything in NJ and at state, county and municipal levels, there is a long list of issues to be addressed and the squeaky wheel always gets the lube. In bike / ped planning that means pedestrian fatalities. Funding is directed to the areas with the most incidents and everything below the top 3 just stays on the list and the top thing is the most serious issue in a given period.Somerset County is responsible for Canal Rd. Their Roadway Safety Study (Dec. '21) mentions the word bicycle 144 times, and has people on bikes displayed on the cover. How many Somerset County residents attend meetings and give feedback on unsafe roads like Canal, Jacques and many others in that area? Canal Rd. is listed at 17 in the top 20 crash prone areas of the county in the study.
We've tried to crest 1000 annual members in JORBA for over 10 years with no luck. The cycling industry has tons of issues, and lack of a unified voice in nearly every advocacy situation is one of them.
To my knowledge, no.Any ideas on what changed the situation recently? That trail has been there for over 15 years (maybe 20?).
I quoted the county study mostly to address the bridge question, with an advocacy gripe mixed in. The county engineering department is responsible for major projects such a bridges like this, no? Great info re: stress levels, etc. too, thanks for posting it.While the county has a interest in all of the roads in their county, these roads are under municipal jurisdiction. To put this in perspective, the level with the least amount of funding and resources. Not saying connections to bigger funding sources can't be made, but it is starting at the bottom of the food chain.
it traverses in and out of the leased farmland parcels next to the adjacent park parcels. It is all state park land, but the lease is probably where that info came from.As the “Why?” of the closure is being discussed in this thread, I’m having recollections of the community being told, long ago, that this section encroaches on private property.
That is our perception. If we were developing a trail plan for that area without any existing trails, dumping riders out onto Canal would not be a viable option. From a liability standpoint I can see clearly why it was closed.
It doesn't help that the trail built without permission, and with a handful of very much unsustainable sections.
I quoted the county study mostly to address the bridge question, with an advocacy gripe mixed in. The county engineering department is responsible for major projects such a bridges like this, no? Great info re: stress levels, etc. too, thanks for posting it.
we will stay positive - there has to be a solution.
Yelow. It was a swamp.When I first rode SixMile there used to be a rarely used “trail” behind the house that meandered around and went close to the brook. I wanna say yellow? Anyway, I wonder if we could propose to recover that trail, make whatever improvements necessary to make it sustainable and if need be, extend it to a location somewhere near the Jacques Lane area suitable for a “crossing” . A bridge would probably be necessary, but honestly, at some level, I kinda miss the “feet wet” stream crossings we used to have.
We've tried to crest 1000 annual members in JORBA for over 10 years with no luck. The cycling industry has tons of issues, and lack of a unified voice in nearly every advocacy situation is one of them.
Maybe modular prefab like this?a while back I was looking at used, flatbed train cars as a bridge option - just a bit too short, and need serious abutments.
we will stay positive - there has to be a solution.