Running With the Foghorn Leghorn
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After he locks up every moving part you know it will be yours next 🙂
qclabrat
Well-Known Member
not hard in short term, tough to maintainWhat kind of scale are you using? Is it digital? I think they can be more inaccurate than a high quality dial scale. Or to be really accurate get one of these:
Losing 13 lbs in less than 2 days seems beyond reality for someone your size (I'm assuming you aren't 300+ lbs 😉)
when I wrestled in HS I'd always come in at about 124 the day before a match where I wrestled at 108, coach would give me a WTF each time, but I always made weight. just like Norm's formula, eat little, sweat, pee, poop, spit it all out. In addition to training for 3 hrs, add in another 2hrs of steam or sauna, and a 10 mile run in the morning, then chew gum/squish Literine all day till weigh ins. Afterwards, would eat 2 subs and gain back 6 pounds instantly. In those the days, I had endless energy and could follow that cycle for 3 months, nowadays a 10 mile run would be all the energy I'd have for a weekend
Mountain Bike Mike
Well-Known Member
I did the same thing... Did you wear garbage bags on your morning run to shed more water?
Also - didn't starving yourself and cutting weight for wrestling really teach you two things:
1. The art of knowing your body and weight loss
2. Made you as mean as a rabid animal
gtluke
The Moped
I don't even know you anymore.
Friday, May 29, 2015
Ok @clarkenstein a few things have been bugging me. You'll need to circle back to @EloquentKate on this one.
1. I don't like the weight lifting as a primary form of exercise. I understand though why you left this out of your recap.
2. I also don't like that they set a TDEE and do not change it on a daily basis, nor make mention of calorie usage variability. I would think in any calorie model you would want to include your daily variable calorie usage. I know the simple answer is to add it to your TDEE but in an article so extensive how can they not mention it? Seems puzzling to me.
I also followed the link to The Wave approach of calorie intake, and this is something I've been thinking of lately. His Yoga Woman example was eating like this:
Breakfast: 300c
Lunch: 300c
Dinner+: 900c
Look familiar? I do like the fact he says it's just 1 model/method and that basically who-knows what will work for you.
On bikes & bike equipment. As I said previously somewhere (maybe text to @mattybfat) a saddle is mostly a saddle, just like bibs are mostly bibs. Usually I just notice a terrible saddle or terrible bibs. I know some people are more sensitive but I have a Grundle of Steel it seems and nothing really bugs me that much. So to me the saddle is fine, but I don't think I would pay $200 for it when the $30 saddle I have on other bikes is fine too.
The RIP9 is 31.5 pounds, roughly 7.5-8 pounds more than Ted. But as I said to @davidcarson48 this is like comparing Ted to the road bike. They're really just 2 different animals. I won't be racing on this bike. More importantly, this needs a new name. Van Winkle comes to mind but meh. This brings me to Rip Torn, which brings me to the Larry Sanders Show. So this bike may end up as Larry Sanders. That also leads me to Colonel Sanders. Maybe just Larry. The Bob Newhart Show. Bob Newhart. I'm going to let @jmanic have first crack at it.
My leg is still hurting today so I decided to go to Six Mile once my work week was over. This is somewhat new ground for me in that I cramped so bad the other day that it still hurts 2 days later. If the race were today I would not do it. I'll play Sunday by ear right now.
More on the nutrition thing - @fidodie I'm not sure what you're really saying. Seems to me your thoughts are not complete there. @jmanic - yes, fences. This reminds me of an exercise I used to do. This was when I was really over the top. I would take my base calorie usage and spread it over the day. Say 100 calories per hour. So when you wake up, you're -800. You eat breakfast and you cover some of that but every hour you subtract 100. Over time the difference between the base usage and the calorie input gets larger and larger, then you eat lunch, etc etc. Imagine it is a graph.
Well, I had this idea that if the 2 lines got too far apart then shit would go south. Once you are in too much of a calorie deficit for the day, you have to start to shut down, or something along those lines. Then add exercise and the gap widens. I never got too far into this exercise but it has to have some merit, doesn't it?
Ok, hit Six Mile with Kirt late in the day and I felt pretty good. About 20 minutes in I had this Wave of Tired come over me and I got super thirsty. I slammed the first bottle pretty quickly and it seemed to take root fairly quickly. I felt good and stuck on Kirt's wheel the whole ride. We didn't push things until the end but my bike handling felt good today and my cramp muscle did not bother me at all so I should be good to go on Sunday to race. At the end when we did push a bit, I got PRs on each of the last 5 segments we rode.
Ok @clarkenstein a few things have been bugging me. You'll need to circle back to @EloquentKate on this one.
1. I don't like the weight lifting as a primary form of exercise. I understand though why you left this out of your recap.
2. I also don't like that they set a TDEE and do not change it on a daily basis, nor make mention of calorie usage variability. I would think in any calorie model you would want to include your daily variable calorie usage. I know the simple answer is to add it to your TDEE but in an article so extensive how can they not mention it? Seems puzzling to me.
I also followed the link to The Wave approach of calorie intake, and this is something I've been thinking of lately. His Yoga Woman example was eating like this:
Breakfast: 300c
Lunch: 300c
Dinner+: 900c
Look familiar? I do like the fact he says it's just 1 model/method and that basically who-knows what will work for you.
On bikes & bike equipment. As I said previously somewhere (maybe text to @mattybfat) a saddle is mostly a saddle, just like bibs are mostly bibs. Usually I just notice a terrible saddle or terrible bibs. I know some people are more sensitive but I have a Grundle of Steel it seems and nothing really bugs me that much. So to me the saddle is fine, but I don't think I would pay $200 for it when the $30 saddle I have on other bikes is fine too.
The RIP9 is 31.5 pounds, roughly 7.5-8 pounds more than Ted. But as I said to @davidcarson48 this is like comparing Ted to the road bike. They're really just 2 different animals. I won't be racing on this bike. More importantly, this needs a new name. Van Winkle comes to mind but meh. This brings me to Rip Torn, which brings me to the Larry Sanders Show. So this bike may end up as Larry Sanders. That also leads me to Colonel Sanders. Maybe just Larry. The Bob Newhart Show. Bob Newhart. I'm going to let @jmanic have first crack at it.
My leg is still hurting today so I decided to go to Six Mile once my work week was over. This is somewhat new ground for me in that I cramped so bad the other day that it still hurts 2 days later. If the race were today I would not do it. I'll play Sunday by ear right now.
More on the nutrition thing - @fidodie I'm not sure what you're really saying. Seems to me your thoughts are not complete there. @jmanic - yes, fences. This reminds me of an exercise I used to do. This was when I was really over the top. I would take my base calorie usage and spread it over the day. Say 100 calories per hour. So when you wake up, you're -800. You eat breakfast and you cover some of that but every hour you subtract 100. Over time the difference between the base usage and the calorie input gets larger and larger, then you eat lunch, etc etc. Imagine it is a graph.
Well, I had this idea that if the 2 lines got too far apart then shit would go south. Once you are in too much of a calorie deficit for the day, you have to start to shut down, or something along those lines. Then add exercise and the gap widens. I never got too far into this exercise but it has to have some merit, doesn't it?
Ok, hit Six Mile with Kirt late in the day and I felt pretty good. About 20 minutes in I had this Wave of Tired come over me and I got super thirsty. I slammed the first bottle pretty quickly and it seemed to take root fairly quickly. I felt good and stuck on Kirt's wheel the whole ride. We didn't push things until the end but my bike handling felt good today and my cramp muscle did not bother me at all so I should be good to go on Sunday to race. At the end when we did push a bit, I got PRs on each of the last 5 segments we rode.
Red Mosquito
Formerly RLB the Scrapple Boy
But while it's happening it feels ohhhh sooooooo good!
The new Colonel Sanders is played by Darrell Hammond. Darrell is a damn fine name for a bike.
Man that's some pressure.
Let me get my drink on this weekend and see what shakes loose.
Rip Van Wafel could be a goer, but maybe not.
Or the Greatest American Hero.
Or Charlton Heston.
This. Goes with the Newhart theme. And you could name one of your other bikes Darrel.
Yup, I like this idea, it would be an interesting exercise if nothing else.
Oh yeah. I was working the grill at MiL's BBQ. Diverted entirely too much to the chef's plate.
i had a snippet of an idea, and wrote it that way....ugh.
was thinking about a variable calorie diet on a day-to-day basis - seems after stabilizing around -400 for the day, i'd stop being having psycho hunger thoughts at
that level after a couple weeks. if it were variable, day-to-day, that means every other day, i'd probably be famished. leading to failure....
just wondering what the variable intake would do from a hunger POV. and would it be better to "be hungry" 3 days a week, and be ok the others, vs just getting accustom to the lower intake....
of course it would be worth it if the results were there....
still the framework for a question, ....
was thinking about a variable calorie diet on a day-to-day basis - seems after stabilizing around -400 for the day, i'd stop being having psycho hunger thoughts at
that level after a couple weeks. if it were variable, day-to-day, that means every other day, i'd probably be famished. leading to failure....
just wondering what the variable intake would do from a hunger POV. and would it be better to "be hungry" 3 days a week, and be ok the others, vs just getting accustom to the lower intake....
of course it would be worth it if the results were there....
still the framework for a question, ....
Red Mosquito
Formerly RLB the Scrapple Boy
The variable, or ad-hoc is probably the way. Mixing it up works best for so many other things (training, avoiding boredom) so why wouldn't it be best here?
Maybe a regimen for the short term just to get the "ball rollong", but long term its probably more realistic to keep it mixed. 7 day average or something.
Maybe a regimen for the short term just to get the "ball rollong", but long term its probably more realistic to keep it mixed. 7 day average or something.
so now i'm thinking variable calorie intake vs variable deficit.....starving during recovery from a hard ride/workout
doesn't make a whole lot of sense....
cutting out the beer/cookies/ice cream is probably enough? then adding some calories to promote recovery?
i've learned not to finish the food my kid doesn't eat. Just let it go....
more, free flow typing...no real meat to it, just some idea morsels.
doesn't make a whole lot of sense....
cutting out the beer/cookies/ice cream is probably enough? then adding some calories to promote recovery?
i've learned not to finish the food my kid doesn't eat. Just let it go....
more, free flow typing...no real meat to it, just some idea morsels.
rick81721
Lothar
Another idea that may or may not be helpful - I've noticed I've dropped a few pounds the last 3 weeks, and I think it's primarily the result of eating a large salad (lately been on a cabbage salad kick) prior to dinner main course. Basically filling up on a low calorie/bulk item which leads to eating smaller high calorie portions. ymmv
Mountain Bike Mike
Well-Known Member
New bike name - Mr Ed
Saturday, May 30, 2015
Went to friends last night and while sitting on their ghetto swing the rope untied and @Dominique & I landed on our heads. All fine & funny until I wake up at 2:00 unable to move my neck at all. Advil tames it a little but I sleep like dogshit and wake up with a stiff neck. Pop Advil all day.
Go buy a cheap MTB from D's coworker then hit Costco then we're off to Tymor Park to meet @Schilling to ride the course. We did a cat 3 loop with D, then we did a full cat 1 loop then 1 more 3 loop to catch her on her 3rd lap. Course is less brutal than in years past but Tymor is Tymor.
Then we went to The Hop for dinner in Fishkill. Solid menu and killer beer selection.
The I ATE MOAR BURGER UP YOURS SCALE!
Across the street was coolness:
Now we're at the fire:
Good night then.
Went to friends last night and while sitting on their ghetto swing the rope untied and @Dominique & I landed on our heads. All fine & funny until I wake up at 2:00 unable to move my neck at all. Advil tames it a little but I sleep like dogshit and wake up with a stiff neck. Pop Advil all day.
Go buy a cheap MTB from D's coworker then hit Costco then we're off to Tymor Park to meet @Schilling to ride the course. We did a cat 3 loop with D, then we did a full cat 1 loop then 1 more 3 loop to catch her on her 3rd lap. Course is less brutal than in years past but Tymor is Tymor.
Then we went to The Hop for dinner in Fishkill. Solid menu and killer beer selection.
The I ATE MOAR BURGER UP YOURS SCALE!
Across the street was coolness:
Now we're at the fire:
Good night then.