Poll: Do you subscribe to a religion, if so what?

What do you consider yourself?

  • Athiest/Agnostic

    Votes: 27 58.7%
  • Buddhist

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Christian (visit church more than twice a month)

    Votes: 7 15.2%
  • Christian (Haven't been to one since the last wedding)

    Votes: 5 10.9%
  • Hindu

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Jewish (orthodox)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Jewish (I like the traditions)

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • Muslim (Pray five times a day)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Muslim (Praying is too much work)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Spritual

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 5 10.9%

  • Total voters
    46
I think the whole point to this thread was to show how cycling has brought diverse groups together, not be a debate about religion.

and I think @fidodie has plenty of charisma
 
I find it disheartening that non spiritual has out weighed those who have spiritual beliefs. But by wiki definition I bet most who say they are not could fall into by definition.

There is no single, widely agreed definition of spirituality.[11][12][note 1]Surveys of the definition of the term, as used in scholarly research, show a broad range of definitions[10] ranging from very narrow and uni-dimensional definitions such as a personal belief in a supernatural realm[5] to broader concepts such as a quest for an ultimate/sacred meaning,[7]transcending the base/material aspects of life, and/or a sense of awe/wonderment and reverence toward the universe. A survey of reviews by McCarroll e.a. dealing with the topic of spirituality gave twenty-seven explicit definitions, among which "there was little agreement."[10] This causes some difficulty in trying to study spirituality systematically; i.e., it impedes both understanding and the capacity to communicate findings in a meaningful fashion. Indeed, many of spirituality's core features are not unique to spirituality alone; for example German philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer (a famous atheist) regarded self-transcendence, asceticism and the recognition of one's connection to all as a key to ethical living (see)

According to Waaijman, the traditional meaning of spirituality is a process of re-formation which "aims to recover the original shape of man, the image of God. To accomplish this, the re-formation is oriented at a mold, which represents the original shape: in Judaism the Torah, in Christianity there is Christ, for Buddhism, Buddha, and in Islam, Muhammad."[15] In modern times the emphasis is on subjective experience[1] and the "deepest values and meanings by which people live,"[2][3]incorporating personal growth or transformation, usually in a context separate from organized religious institutions.[4] Houtman and Aupers suggest that modern spirituality is a blend of humanistic psychology, mystical and esoteric traditions and eastern religions.[6]

Spirituality is sometimes associated with philosophical, social, or political movements such as liberalism, feminist theology, and green politics.[16] Some argue (though far from universally accepted—see those who espouse secular humanism)spirituality is intimately linked to resolving mental health issues, managing substance abuse, marital functioning, parenting, and coping.
 
everyone can learn something from hipster Jesus
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i actually read all the stuff @fidodie wrote and man, does this just fall into the category of mental masturbation? We can all agree on that we belong to the Church of the Bike.
 
Pat, if u had more charisma you could be a cult leader. Do they offer classes in charisma?

yes - i failed.....twice, badly. Maybe when i'm reincarnated. 😉

if thoughts are just energy, then why can't some of that energy stay together, and be expressed in a new, sentient entity (or anything??)... hence i can not completely dismiss the possibility of reincarnation at some level.

And while we are all at it, please send @jdog some positive energy.
We are going to need that community thing that @Arwen's Mom mentioned to get some stuff done....this is the tithe, not part of your paycheck,
 
I find every conversation about religion ends up in the same place ultimately (kind of like politics):

1. Those who don’t believe in a higher power will try to search out a scientific explanation (like your Stephen Hawking or something) for everything, or their heads will explode.

2. In General people spend a lot of energy trying to disprove the existence of a higher being, way more than those trying to prove it.

3. Most people who do believe in a higher power stay quiet so that they’re not brow-beaten by the other group.

4. Most people are not half as smart as they think they are, anyone can dig up pro/con arguments up on the internet.

5. We really don’t know shit, and that’s cool because there’s at least some mystery left to ponder.

6. This is what happens when the weather is too shitty to ride.
 
2. In General people spend a lot of energy trying to disprove the existence of a higher being, way more than those trying to prove it.

3. Most people who do believe in a higher power stay quiet so that they’re not brow-beaten by the other group.
any psychological explanation for this?


BTW I agree with all your points
 
I find every conversation about religion ends up in the same place ultimately (kind of like politics):

1. Those who don’t believe in a higher power will try to search out a scientific explanation (like your Stephen Hawking or something) for everything, or their heads will explode.

2. In General people spend a lot of energy trying to disprove the existence of a higher being, way more than those trying to prove it.

3. Most people who do believe in a higher power stay quiet so that they’re not brow-beaten by the other group.


There are loud mouths on both side.
Although I haven't seen any atheist kill someone because they believed in God.
 
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