Poll: Do you subscribe to a religion, if so what?

What do you consider yourself?

  • Athiest/Agnostic

    Votes: 27 58.7%

  • Buddhist

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Christian (visit church more than twice a month)

    Votes: 7 15.2%

  • Christian (Haven't been to one since the last wedding)

    Votes: 5 10.9%

  • Hindu

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Jewish (orthodox)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Jewish (I like the traditions)

    Votes: 1 2.2%

  • Muslim (Pray five times a day)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Muslim (Praying is too much work)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Spritual

    Votes: 1 2.2%

  • Other

    Votes: 5 10.9%
  • Total voters
    46
I was good with both @pooriggy And @viper8315

They are not attacking any person. Just stating their belief.

For Iggy, if one truly believes the god, then the inspiration for the writing could be inspired by God.

It is a faith based religion.
 
fidodie said:
For Iggy, if one truly believes the god, then the inspiration for the writing could be inspired by God.
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I believe it's man's interpretation of a God. Man wants to believe in a God and will go to great lengths to prove of his existence. Ultimately he can't so you have to take it on faith (believe without question) that God exists. I'm not saying this is wrong, a lot of people take comfort in their beliefs, with explicit doctrine to guide them throughout life and can find peace with death.
The need for religion is to explain the unanswered, which in and of itself is something only man would come up with. We need answers to everything .
 
pooriggy said:
I believe it's man's interpretation of a God. Man wants to believe in a God and will go to great lengths to prove of his existence. Ultimately he can't so you have to take it on faith (believe without question) that God exists. I'm not saying this is wrong, a lot of people take comfort in their beliefs, with explicit doctrine to guide them throughout life and can find peace with death.
The need for religion is to explain the unanswered, which in and of itself is something only man would come up with. We need answers to everything .
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Where did the big bang come from? What was before the big bang??
 
i don't know what i would click on this. i take my kids to church regularly. my wife is an irish catholic. its not just a religion for the irish catholic, it is an identity and culture. i'm not going to let my personal beliefs stand in the way of generation after generation of culture. because i try to maintain a certain level of respect for culture.

that said, i think a guy named jesus walked the earth and said some pretty great stuff. son of god? old testament? not my bag. i won't tell my kids that though. i went to church every sunday as a kid and found my own lane in life lead me to currently be where i am. i don't agree with the church (particularly the catholic church) and don't roll my eyes during the service even though at times i want to; at the same time, the church does a lot of outreach and helps a hell of a lot of people where they can and when they can.

so i'm an atheist/agnostic who goes to church almost every sunday. imagine that.

*edit - for the record i step aside during communion. i get a couple stares, but also notice i'm not the only one doing it. there's a few of us that hang back while everyone walks up. it would be interesting to ask them why.
 
Kaleidopete said:
The Theory, that's it!
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Here's another one - and I'm a biochemist: life initiated from incredibly dilute solutions of amino acids in the primordial earth's oceans? Really?? And I am not a creationist - evolution is factual science.

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pooriggy said:
Finally when my father died 3 yrs ago religion did keep him from feeling despair during his battle with cancer. Reading his prayer books did provide comfort for him. Religion does help folks through difficult times.
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Interesting. My grandmother died before her mother (my great grandmother) but very close in time. One in 2008 the other 2009. My great grandmother had a strong belief system which my grandmother did not. That's said my great grandmother was much more comfortable where she was at with her fate being measured day to day. My grandmother was very scared.
 
I've realized that I'm a pagan christian, meaning I celebrate the main christian holidays - Easter and Christmas - but with pagan, non-christian rituals (Spring equinox/Easter bunny, Winter solstice/Xmas tree). Nothin bout Jesus in there (sorry bro).
 
pooriggy said:
I believe it's man's interpretation of a God. Man wants to believe in a God and will go to great lengths to prove of his existence. Ultimately he can't so you have to take it on faith (believe without question) that God exists. I'm not saying this is wrong, a lot of people take comfort in their beliefs, with explicit doctrine to guide them throughout life and can find peace with death.
The need for religion is to explain the unanswered, which in and of itself is something only man would come up with. We need answers to everything .
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I understand and respect your view. The Bible starts with the premise that God exists. It is not arguing god's existence. That is a philosophical argument, not a theological.

As sure as 1+1=2, God exists. If starting from that point, then it is not a leap to words being inspired by an omnipotent God.

Your frame does not allow for the base premise. I'm in your camp here. But we have no standing against one who holds the initial premise.

I'm fine with that. But I also realize that there is Bible cherry picking going on.

Maybe more on that later.

Morris Catholic class of '86 !
Any other mchs grads here?
 
rick81721 said:
Where did the big bang come from? What was before the big bang??
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You are not keeping up....the latest idea is the speed of light changes as the universe ages. With a changing speed of light the Big Bang changes into many small bangs.
Please keep up with the latest theories or you will have to sit at the kids table for dinner.
 
mustclime said:
You are not keeping up....the latest idea is the speed of light changes as the universe ages. With a changing speed of light the Big Bang changes into many small bangs.
Please keep up with the latest theories or you will have to sit at the kids table for dinner.
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Doesn't answer the question but thanks for trying.
 
fidodie said:
I understand and respect your view. The Bible starts with the premise that God exists. It is not arguing god's existence. That is a philosophical argument, not a theological.

As sure as 1+1=2, God exists. If starting from that point, then it is not a leap to words being inspired by an omnipotent God.

Your frame does not allow for the base premise. I'm in your camp here. But we have no standing against one who holds the initial premise.

I'm fine with that. But I also realize that there is Bible cherry picking going on.

Maybe more on that later.

Morris Catholic class of '86 !
Any other mchs grads here?
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I used to deliver Snapple to MCHS. Does that count?
 
mustclime said:
You are not keeping up....the latest idea is the speed of light changes as the universe ages. With a changing speed of light the Big Bang changes into many small bangs.
Please keep up with the latest theories or you will have to sit at the kids table for dinner.
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rick81721 said:
Doesn't answer the question but thanks for trying.
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i kinda like the curved space-time continuum stuff. imagine in a simple model, a bar magnet approaching zero length, and the magnetic field around it. this allows for a continuous universe bounded by a point source (and sink) - our reference is our point in time. The big bang is being spit out one side of the magnet, in "time", will return to the same point from the other "direction". and start all over.

3 dimensions + time isn't enough to describe it - like this simple model - but that will do, cause i don't know how to imagine stuff in more dimensions. (say: speed of light is constant, it is time-rate that is changing....#ouch)

from an omnipotent god perspective, God sits outside the dimensions of superspace, thus can look at it like we look at 2D space.

we aren't suppose to be able to understand (prove) either of these...

kinda funny how 'we' try to conceive he universe, but that human existence is just a dot on the cosmic timeline....

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E.O. Wilson is a good read on why people tend towards religion, he has a biological explanation. Try reading Consilience. Read it using an e-reader.
Spent as much time cross-referencing words+concepts, as i spent reading the book. I've mentioned this before.
 
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