Poll: Do you subscribe to a religion, if so what?

What do you consider yourself?

  • Athiest/Agnostic

    Votes: 27 58.7%

  • Buddhist

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Christian (visit church more than twice a month)

    Votes: 7 15.2%

  • Christian (Haven't been to one since the last wedding)

    Votes: 5 10.9%

  • Hindu

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Jewish (orthodox)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Jewish (I like the traditions)

    Votes: 1 2.2%

  • Muslim (Pray five times a day)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Muslim (Praying is too much work)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Spritual

    Votes: 1 2.2%

  • Other

    Votes: 5 10.9%
  • Total voters
    46
I'll got out there and say, I'm none of the above and all of the above..

I believe in everything happens for a reason, Karma, there is some form of higher power that we can call on for help and it watches over us, I believe in science and I don't think we are anywhere past scratching the surface of how we ended up here and how the universe was created - Higher power, science, magic... call it what you want but it's some really complicated stuff.

I also am mystified by the concept of soul
 
Arwen's Mom said:
any psychological explanation for this?


BTW I agree with all your points
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I don’t know, I’m not a doctor. Many beers can be drunk, shots taken, and G-Pen cartridges kicked trying to answer these questions. Beyond greed and the need to eat and get laid, I don’t know what makes other people tick. Although I’ll posit that those 3 explain a good portion of people’s behavior.
 
Forgot to mention greek mhythology.
what if its real?

Kirk later says "what if he really is Apollo?"
 
This is slowly turning into a head butting religous battle...2 things you don't talk to friends about are religion and politics. This thread I feel started with good intent but I am surprised it has made it this far. I am not against religion and I went through communion and all that but I have never been one to believe in something I can't see.
 
David Taylor said:
This is slowly turning into a head butting religous battle...2 things you don't talk to friends about are religion and politics. This thread I feel started with good intent but I am surprised it has made it this far. I am not against religion and I went through communion and all that but I have never been one to believe in something I can't see.
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I am willing to bet you put faith in something you cant see almost every day.

On another note,
I am still amazed sometimes at how cycling DOES indeed bring people together with very different lifestyles. The one thing we all have in common is the love for wheels that go around and around powered by our bodies. Bikes are amazing. WAY more comradery in the cycling community than there is at the dog parks!
 
Arwen's Mom said:
I am willing to bet you put faith in something you cant see almost every day.

On another note,
I am still amazed sometimes at how cycling DOES indeed bring people together with very different lifestyles. The one thing we all have in common is the love for wheels that go around and around powered by our bodies. Bikes are amazing. WAY more comradery in the cycling community than there is at the dog parks!
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Pehaps? I believe you make your own "luck" . Does that count? I have faith in my alarm clock, my Toyota, etc...do good things happen to good people? Sure , but they happen to bad people as well. It scares the shit out of me to die, I will say that. I love life too mich despite being one of the sheeple....hmmm, am I wandering off topic?
 
I'm not one to debate politics or religion. I'm surprised that every church I've walked into hasn't burst into flames.

While raised Catholic and yes celebrating Christmas, it's hard for me to believe anything. This is mostly because my life in engineering and understanding of the sciences make it hard to believe that *poof* something happened. I stick to math and physical proof, but when my 92 year old grandma says she prays for me, she gets the answer she wants.
 
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David Taylor said:
This is slowly turning into a head butting religous battle...2 things you don't talk to friends about are religion and politics. This thread I feel started with good intent but I am surprised it has made it this far. I am not against religion and I went through communion and all that but I have never been one to believe in something I can't see.
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nah - we are doing great. No personal attacks.
as a matter of fact, it hasn't been too much about 'religion' and more about 'is there a god?' -

"i can't believe in ... because ...."

is how one makes an argument. This is a healthy discussion, and how one should make their points.
One can counter, with their beliefs, or premise.

like this.

ekuhn said:
I'm not one to debate politics or religion. I'm surprised that every church I've walked into hasn't burst into flames.

While raised Catholic and yes celebrating Christmas, it's hard for me to believe anything. This is mostly because my life in engineering and understanding of the sciences make it hard to believe that *poof* something happened. I stick to math and physical proof, but when my 92 year old grandma says she prays for me, she gets the answer she wants.
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There is no proof God does not exist either. Again, i am not in the god camp, but there is no proof either way.
and your concern about how grandma feels (empathy) and your reaction, is one tenant of religion.

So one can accept the social framework, without believing. How are we going to teach that in the future, without the god part, cause it seems "right" ????

As @pooriggy has mentioned, and @clarkenstein, the old testament is a combination of stories, and interpretations. Are the divinely inspired?, idunno. They taught us that in catholic school 30 years ago.
(new testament, is word of god - per church, see previous post)
Believing in evolution, per @rick81721 , does not exclude god - again, the concept that god lives outside the time-space, has coined the term intelligent design. or maybe god subscribes to chaos theory?

Here's an interesting idea.
if you were a gambling person, believing in god, and the rewards that come with it, would trump not believing and just ending.
only because of the comparative opportunity costs. for those that don't steal, murder, etc....doing it wouldn't be that far of a shift.
(this is not my argument, it is Pascal's)

@StayHydrated - the weak part of the argument for contact (not existence) is the time dimension. if we are a point on the cosmic timeline, then it approaches impossible for another point
to overlap (see concept of irrational numbers) - it is that simple. say the human capability of writing has existed for 5000 years - radio reception for 125 - do you think we are going to last
another 10,000? doubt it. That is a small window.
 
fidodie said:
@StayHydrated - the weak part of the argument for contact (not existence) is the time dimension. if we are a point on the cosmic timeline, then it approaches impossible for another point
to overlap (see concept of irrational numbers) - it is that simple. say the human capability of writing has existed for 5000 years - radio reception for 125 - do you think we are going to last
another 10,000? doubt it. That is a small window.
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Kepler-452b is 1400 light-years away. Even if we managed to come up with a way to travel at 0.01c (still ~ 6.7 million mph), it would take us 140,000 years to get there. The whole gig will go up in smoke well before that, like you said.

Was thinking about this in the shower this morning - there is a non-zero chance that there is a humanoid-like sentient being out there somewhere that isn't Earth also showering whose civilization will likely never realize we exist, and vice versa. Some solutions to the Drake Equation give a number of civilizations as great as 100 million (although, the Rare Earth Hypothesis gives a value of 10^-11...meaning we're flying solo, so the shoe can be on the other foot). Just cool to think about. The chance is extremely low, but tiny is still > zero.

I reiterate my earlier point: WE'RE SO SMALL; IT'S CRAZY.


TL;DR - We're really small, everything is fleeting and temporary, be nice to one another.
 
I have finally found a way to live
Just like I never could before.
I know that I don't have much to give,
But I can open any door.

Everybody knows the secret,
Everybody knows the score.
I have finally found a way to live
In the color of the Lord.

I have finally found a place to live
Just like I never could before.
And I know I don't have much to give,
But soon I'll open any door.

Everybody knows the secret,
Everybody knows the score.
I have finally found a place to live
In the presence of the Lord.
In the presence of the Lord.

I have finally found a way to live
Just like I never could before.
And I know I don't have much to give,
But I can open any door.

Everybody knows the secret,
I said everybody knows the score.
I have finally found a way to live
In the color of the Lord.
In the color of the Lord.
 
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