Lance

I want to clear this up plain and simple. Lance is a *****. If you dope your a *****. Blah blah blah. If you do it to be competitive. Your still a *****. I'm a type 1 diabetic whom races all dif races and prefers anything over 50 miles of offroad racing. Technical racing that it. I work construction too. working on my feet every effin day and then hoping that i feel well enough to ride afterwards. I have never doped or considered any enhancements drugs. I try as hard as i can but will never be as strong as most cause of my condition. It sucks but i'm a real man. Not no ***** who has to dope to be as strong. Lance is a ***** period. at least all the others confessed that they doped. But lance doesn't need to cause he ain't got enough "balls" too. what a *****...
 
gingertooth said:
I want to clear this up plain and simple. Lance is a *****. If you dope your a *****. Blah blah blah. If you do it to be competitive. Your still a *****. I'm a type 1 diabetic whom races all dif races and prefers anything over 50 miles of offroad racing. Technical racing that it. I work construction too. working on my feet every effin day and then hoping that i feel well enough to ride afterwards. I have never doped or considered any enhancements drugs. I try as hard as i can but will never be as strong as most cause of my condition. It sucks but i'm a real man. Not no ***** who has to dope to be as strong. Lance is a ***** period. at least all the others confessed that they doped. But lance doesn't need to cause he ain't got enough "balls" too. what a *****...
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So then if you had to describe Lance in one word ... what might that be?
 
Lance is a jerk-bomb for sure but one thing we all are forgetting, doping doesn't turn a random shmuck like us into a multi-tour winner and world champ. You need to be a pretty darn good athlete and 95% of the way there for drugs to help you at all.

I remember a special about doping on Discovery Channel where Arnold Schwarzenegger said that steriods will make you be able to lift 1,050 pounds only if you can already lift 1,000 clean.

Not that I condone doping at all, but when you're talking about the kind of money these companies have tied up into their sponsored athletes, it really doesn't have anything to do with bike racing anymore. There's some bean counter in a room with a long table full of other bean counters trying to figure out how to get a bigger piece of the pie. Paying off officials and doctors is a drop in the hat for companies like Trek or Nike. Shit like this happens more than any of us will ever know. Hell, look at our government if you want to see the business model Nike stole.

-Jim.
 
Well said Jim, these guys are already extraordinary and they are making themselves as close super human as possible.
 
the way I look at it is did any of the TDF winners dope?? don't much care about it...
I look at the person and the stuff Lance has done with charities makes him still a winner in my book..
 
1 good point in my post, rest is a rant - don't read it

writer loses some cred because:

the post office is not a publicly funded entity. (since 1982ish)

Advertising brings in business - unless you want to blame lance for the fall of the post office (rather than the internet ?) or just that we were spoiled with cheap postage that allowed junk mail to flow freely.

writer loses more when:
used 'see what others are writing' which lets him(?) pick and choose the most polarizing snippets.

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isn't cycling a team sport? Lance's personal story made his wearing of the yellow jersey more compelling (and sales worthy) - the story was scripted, then funded, then executed....in that order. top down, make it happen, i don't care how you do it....

anybody burning their nike gear this weekend?

oh, yeah - and Lance was doping...where else was he going to get some testosterone ....(not that i think he was clean otherwise, but he got a head start because he medically needed it - )

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is this such a big story because everyone wants lance to "come clean" - the drug ringleader stuff is starting to bug me - the leader is the leader - he was assigned the position...when he said something like - this is how it works - it carried the weight of the leader.

where is my albuterol???

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how's A-Rod doing? he only did steroids the one time, and got caught.....:hmmm:
 
and of this will serve as "Exhibit A" for future athletes on why they NEED to game the system as long as they can.

the lance case just happens to be the most high profile but it illustrates it perfectly: corporations use athletes to sell stuff. as soon as said athlete is no longer producing or able to sell their stuff, they cut ties.

they all KNOW our athletes cheat and they burry it and support them because it pushes the bottom line...or in the case of the olympics, bolsters nationalism.

it's all bullshit people.
 
bonefishjake said:
and of this will serve as "Exhibit A" for future athletes on why they NEED to game the system as long as they can.

the lance case just happens to be the most high profile but it illustrates it perfectly: corporations use athletes to sell stuff. as soon as said athlete is no longer producing or able to sell their stuff, they cut ties.

they all KNOW our athletes cheat and they burry it and support them because it pushes the bottom line...or in the case of the olympics, bolsters nationalism.

it's all bullshit people.
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yeah its this....Its all about the money
 
Sooner or later the TRUTH comes out..you can run you can hide..but everything eventually catches up to you...make your peace with god and if you inicent..you can rest peacefully at night.....
 
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