E-bikes are a thing

Ebikes??

  • I have never ridden one

    Votes: 98 39.0%

  • I have ridden one for over an hour on a trail and I’ll never buy one

    Votes: 10 4.0%

  • I have ridden one in a trail for over an hr and I am considering one

    Votes: 20 8.0%

  • I’ll never give up my analog bike but I’ll still get an ebike

    Votes: 37 14.7%

  • Did he just say analog bike?

    Votes: 37 14.7%

  • My knees are failing and an ebike in inevitable

    Votes: 18 7.2%

  • My next bike will certainly be an ebike.

    Votes: 21 8.4%

  • I’ll never own an ebike, even when I’m 90

    Votes: 25 10.0%

  • Ebikes cause more trail damage than analog bikes

    Votes: 9 3.6%

  • Ebikes have no more trail impact than a traditional bike.

    Votes: 67 26.7%

  • I hate anyone on an ebike

    Votes: 7 2.8%

  • Anyone on a bike is a friend of mine, ebike or not

    Votes: 95 37.8%

  • I’ve been seeing ebikes in the woods regularly

    Votes: 57 22.7%

  • I’ve never seen an ebike on the trail

    Votes: 15 6.0%

  • It's called an Acoustic bike

    Votes: 14 5.6%

  • “I may consider one after my body is all used up and broken"

    Votes: 66 26.3%

  • I already own an off-road Ebike

    Votes: 41 16.3%

  • I have no interest in an e-bike

    Votes: 14 5.6%

  • Arguing against ebikes is kerfuffle

    Votes: 16 6.4%

  • I like Matty no matter what he rides

    Votes: 22 8.8%
  • Total voters
    251
I feel one direct drive wheel is more than enough.

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Bike N Gear said:
Pros don't have to buy their own bikes.
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True... but in general, those with the means to buy a decent e-bike have other bikes besides the e-bike.

Personally, I still ride as much for fitness improvement as any other reason, so as long as I'm in a health position where I don't need an e-bike, I'll probably keep waiting. Similar to the reason why I haven't bought another DH bike - I don't see me using it enough to justify the expense/space. As since most of my riding group are also not on them and I'm usually one of the faster ones anyway, I'll maintain the current fleet for awhile. If anything, a new road bike will likely be next on the purchase list.
 
mattybfat said:
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To steal from. @jdog
If you don't know who's in that pic, shame on you.
You couldn't get anymore hard-core then that guy.
He is all the time ebike...
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"That guy" also has had heart issues and rides in the Sierras. I don't think we'll catch him at 6MR. But I'm not here to throw stones for either side. I do have a question: I see a lot of e-bikes with a small "DPS-style" shock (no piggyback reservoir). Are they for some reason easier on shocks? Or is there any reason not to get big travel, with a big shock if you are getting one (geometry aside)?
 
They offer small shocks like the DPS so that they get their claimed "lightweight" numbers. They include thin cased tires (i.e. Rekons) and forks (i.e. Fox34) too.
 
Depends on how light is light. Don't have the super light weight. I'm at around 40 lbs with Fox 36 Float Factory Grip 2 and a new Float X shock (2022 model Rise). Yes, it has Rekon on the rear but not thin cased. EXO+ casing made special for Orbea. Still relatively light weight. The gripe is with the grip with that as a rear tire. Dissector on the front will go to the rear when the Rekon wears out, which won't be long.

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frug said:
"That guy" also has had heart issues and rides in the Sierras. I don't think we'll catch him at 6MR. But I'm not here to throw stones for either side. I do have a question: I see a lot of e-bikes with a small "DPS-style" shock (no piggyback reservoir). Are they for some reason easier on shocks? Or is there any reason not to get big travel, with a big shock if you are getting one (geometry aside)?
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Same as ketchup says
Plus most bikes your seeing are entry level.
I swapped my suspension almost immediately, went with a dbl barrel coil and a mezzer up front.
 
mattybfat said:
Same as ketchup says
Plus most bikes your seeing are entry level.
I swapped my suspension almost immediately, went with a dbl barrel coil and a mezzer up front.
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I don't know if you are seeing entry level. Could be bike specs to meet light weight claims (36 lbs). For example, the "top of the line" Rise M-LTD ($11,599) is stock with Fox DPS shock,Fox 34 fork and Rekon EXO front and rear. You can get the fork, shock, and tires upgraded when ordering, but then it wouldn't be so light anymore.
 
But, if you can shed weight where it makes sense without compromising too much and get it down closer to 40 lbs, then it makes a big difference.
 
What percent of the ebike is the motor and battery? The components are such a small percentage of the weight that it doesn't make sense to go high end on them.

You can get a 35lb ebike but it's not going to be because of expensive lightweight components, it's the puny motor drive and tiny battery.
 
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iLuveketchup said:
They offer small shocks like the DPS so that they get their claimed "lightweight" numbers. They include thin cased tires (i.e. Rekons) and forks (i.e. Fox34) too.
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You sound like an Orbea owner. LOL. I agree with you though which is why I swapped out the stock shock with a DPX2 and beefier tires. While I was at it I also swapped out the fork (36) to match the performance and geometry of the new shock. Now by steed is a hefty 45 lbs.
 
mattybfat said:
Maybe it's me but last thing I'm gonna worry about is weight of an ebike. Give me steel cogs double down casing and big thick ass chain.
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I don't have one at the moment, but this is how I'd want to build one also. All the suspension with bombproof wheels and tires. Do you think there will be shift to more alloy frames at some point? I know there seems to be a focus on keeping weight down and motors hidden in the market right now, but I'd love to see more robust designs come out.
 
Patrick said:
had to look this up.
wow - times have changed.....
also need boater safety cert, and add to boat to license if used in non-tidal water.
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Aren't electric trolling motors exempt up to 10 HP? I have two setups at 20 and 40 lbs for the bay but it's obviously tidal waters
 
frug said:
I don't have one at the moment, but this is how I'd want to build one also. All the suspension with bombproof wheels and tires. Do you think there will be shift to more alloy frames at some point? I know there seems to be a focus on keeping weight down and motors hidden in the market right now, but I'd love to see more robust designs come out.
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Most of company's are making both carbon and aluminum frames for price point purposes. I for one have like buying AL over carbon because it makes me feel better, as a tree hugger hippy. These bikes are/will rapidly change going forward as new technologies keep pushing the envelope. Hopefully a motor standard will also become a thing. The rabbit hole is deep so beware 🤣
 
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