Cars, it's electric! Do Do Do

I would like to see what happens when people really don't need to buy a new car, rather just change a battery. How will they get us to buy new cars? Make wear parts super expensive?
 
You mention hardly using the brakes. I was actually reading there's issues with people with early model Teslas having the brake calipers seize up/rust as the brakes haven't been used in years.
My 2003 VW Tdi rotors also only need replacement when they get rusty (never wear).
 
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I would like to see what happens when people really don't need to buy a new car, rather just change a battery. How will they get us to buy new cars? Make wear parts super expensive?
People will always want the latest thing. Think of how many people lease cars, every 3 years a new car. NOTHING wrong with the car, it's just not new anymore.
Right now you can replace a gas engine for far less money than it would cost for a new EV battery, but people seldom do it.
 
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People will always want the latest thing. Think of how many people lease cars, every 3 years a new car. NOTHING wrong with the car, it's just not new anymore.
Right now you can replace a gas engine for far less money than it would cost for a new EV battery, but people seldom do it.
At some point we're going to have Jasper rebuilding battery packs...

I was reading last night how Toyota is having an issue where not enough people are leasing their cars and too many people are buying them and it screws with the company finances and they make way more money with leases than purchases.
 
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I would like to see what happens when people really don't need to buy a new car, rather just change a battery. How will they get us to buy new cars? Make wear parts super expensive?
I believe there will be plenty of parts to replace eventually anyway. Are all electric appliances eternally working? Not the ones I bought at least.

Besides the usual argument about what it takes to produce and recharging a fully electric car, the range paired to the recharge time seems to be the biggest issue. Even assuming there were plenty of charging stations, how long would each vehicle occupy the bay to recharge as opposed to a gas refueling? I try to envision what a 4th of July holiday would look like on a busy highway say 350 miles out of a major city (or whatever the range of an EV is nowadays).

This may have been covered at nauseam earlier in the thread so I apologize if that doesn't add any angle to the discussion.
 
What are you whining about now? I just do it in the woods - what's the big deal? I guess no one was a boy scout...

I can't tell if you're being thick or what.

We're talking about proper bathrooms at a state park. Are you going to tell me the hundreds of people that visit Wawaywanda on a nice day are supposed to shit in the woods? Besides being an environmental disaster, it's pretty fucking gross.

We know you're not burying your shit. There's probably piles of Rick poop with toilet paper on top 5 feet into the woods all throughout Florida.

Nobody touch the grips on Rick's bike.
 
I would like to see what happens when people really don't need to buy a new car, rather just change a battery. How will they get us to buy new cars? Make wear parts super expensive?
Well, how do they get us to buy new bikes to replace our perfectly good old ones?

Other than that, its not like bushings in electric motors don't wear out. Then there's the garbage interiors made out of recycled plastic bottles, the actual cost of replacing batteries. And what are we going to do with all the old ones. And oh, we'll need to wait for global warming to really kick in so they don't apply 10-tons of salt per mile when theres a mere threat of snow.
 
I can't tell if you're being thick or what.

We're talking about proper bathrooms at a state park. Are you going to tell me the hundreds of people that visit Wawaywanda on a nice day are supposed to shit in the woods? Besides being an environmental disaster, it's pretty fucking gross.

We know you're not burying your shit. There's probably piles of Rick poop with toilet paper on top 5 feet into the woods all throughout Florida.

Nobody touch the grips on Rick's bike.

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i mean computers last forever and never break or become obsolete right?

Hopefully everyone sees the writing on the wall and makes everything modular for ease of recycling and repair. IMO the most obsolete thing about electric cars are their battery, as the batteries we use in EV's are just barely good enough.
 
Hopefully everyone sees the writing on the wall and makes everything modular for ease of recycling and repair. IMO the most obsolete thing about electric cars are their battery, as the batteries we use in EV's are just barely good enough.
You think manufacturers are going to make things that are easy to fix and they won't purposely obsolete their own technology and standards to drive sales? Kind of like bikes? Are you serious or just being sarcastic?
 
You think manufacturers are going to make things that are easy to fix and they won't purposely obsolete their own technology and standards to drive sales? Kind of like bikes? Are you serious or just being sarcastic?
We should ask tesla drivers what more do they need in a vehicle.
 
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