Caffe Latex

I am going by my experience and can say it seals much quicker. If you have any experience with sealants you would know that they don't work as well as advertised IMO. By a lot of trial and error this has been the best for me. I'm 210 lbs without gear and ride mooches exclusively which have claimed many a tire!
 
I just found out they make different sizes of glitter... Does it matter which one I use? I figured the biggest stuff might block the valve... Any thoughts?
 
al415 said:
I just found out they make different sizes of glitter... Does it matter which one I use? I figured the biggest stuff might block the valve... Any thoughts?
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I use the larger size and yet to have a issue with a clogged valve soo far...
 
CaffeLatex + Mavic Open Pros + GEAX Saguro = Much Success.

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Adding Glitter or other Particles to Sealants

This is Steve from Cantitoe Road. I want to weigh in on the glitter discussion.

So long as there is no chemical interaction going on, there's no problem with adding bits of thread, glitter, hair, finger nail shavings, etc... to the Caffelatex.

Adding bits of materials for improved sealing efficacy and puncture protection assumes you'll have a constant distribution throughout the mix, which is most likely not the case. However, this isn't to say that adding glitter isn't going to work. If you've had a positive experience in the past, or want to give it a try then go for it.

The only real side effect or risk would be jamming up the valve mechanism, and that isn't necessarily going to happen every time, or ever, but it could.

The only thing you don't want to mix into the Caffelatex is something that is going to have a chemical interaction. For example, some people are mixing Stans (a natural latex with ammonia) with Caffelatex (synthetic latex no ammonia). The differences in the sealants causes a chemical reaction resulting in a sealant sausage.

Let us know if you have any questions. The "Much Success" Borat photo above is great. LOL.

mattybfat said:
Realllllly it helps seal the deal on those hard to seal punctures and saves the lost of extra caffee. ...
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mtbdawgJeff said:
Why don't the makers of caffe latex just add glitter to their product if it makes it so much better? ...
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mattybfat said:
... By a lot of trial and error this has been the best for me. ...
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Hello Steve,
This is as good a time as any for me to report 45 days (or so) of trouble-free Caffelatex use! (with glitter by the way 🙂 )
 
So can someone spec out the glitter already? I'm ready to try this, though I suspect I'll need to add gravel to get these f'ing Pythons to stop blowing.
 
Do different tire/rim combos work better than others? My front rim has an Ignitor and I have had no problems. But with my SB8 on the back, its been flat every morning.
 
Yeah, of course. I filled it yesterday morning and it was fine during my ride and up until I went to bed last night. When I got home today it was dead flat.
 
walter said:
Yeah, of course. I filled it yesterday morning and it was fine during my ride and up until I went to bed last night. When I got home today it was dead flat.
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On the new bike, front or rear rim?
I had a problem with my rims, J found there was a problem with the tape ripped or something, once he fixed it, I have not had any issues....
 
My .02:

After going through about 50 Quarts or so of Stan's over the last year+ I have gotten to know the product rather well.

Recently I bought a large container of Caffelatex to try and test.

My findings so far are that the CL is thinner than Stan's which I believe to be the downfall of the product.

Stan's latex comes with "crystals" in it that seems to help plug larger holes. CL lacks the sealing ability that Stan's has. (IMHO)

I do think however that the foaming nature of the CL is brilliant.

If you figure out a way to add the same crystals to the CL than you might have the perfect sealant.

Glitter seems to work for some folks and I can't argue with what is working.

It is my belief that CL will have a second gen product that will carry some solid matter as well as the liquid.

On a personal note I had a tubular go flat in a race yesterday that had CL in it. The sealant did nothing to slow the leak. I am curious to see if Stan's would have done a better job. I have to admit that I think that it would have. To me the tire is shit as of now so I am going to run a little test on it. I plan on removing as much of the CL as I can and replace it with some stan's to test the same flat with the 2nd sealant.

So far I seem to be the minority with my lukewarm response to the CL but that is ok by me.

Stan's does seem to dry out faster and if you run too much you will grow a stan's monster inside.

Bottom line is that sealants are still in their infancy and I am hopeful for continued evolution that will help us all ride flat free.
 
walter said:
Do different tire/rim combos work better than others? My front rim has an Ignitor and I have had no problems. But with my SB8 on the back, its been flat every morning.
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The Small block seems to have a much thinner and more porous casing than the maxxis.

I used CL on both tires and the SB8 was spouting CL everywhere. I am confident that Stan's would have sealed this same tire w/o issue.

Let's test this later in the week and see the difference.


While on the subject.. I know that this is your first run in w/ a tubeless setup.

Any thoughts on the ride quality/ Traction???
 
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