Build a better mousetrap.

kush

Active Member
This thread is beginning to hurt my head. Apologies that I have nothing to contribute beyond that, as I've been only racing for 2 years.
 

pixychick

JORBA: Ringwood
JORBA.ORG
. Sarah Frost after preRace announcements would say "Everyone raise your right hand, pat the person to your right on the back and say have a good race"), also state "You have jobs nothing we have to win is worth getting hurt for" ... I could go on and on about the "Personality or Vibe" whatever you want call it can be applied to an event.
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A few of the H2H promoters still say this at their race starts. But in defense of promoters, races can be very stressful, especially around the start finish. Ultimately, the vibe is created by the racers, not that promoters can help mold those involved.
 

clarkenstein

JORBA Board Member/Chapter Leader
JORBA.ORG
the mountain man does have a cool vi... feeling to it, but i also agree with the cost. i have no desire to pay close to $100 to ride an extremely crowded trail, that within a few hours, i could ride uncrowded for totally free. but i'll go roast some marshmellows and watch. and that cost, to ride lews morris of all places - no way. they lost me. the prizes are hilarious tho.

i digress.

unfortunately, as i'm sure you well know, not everything is quantifiable, logical, and/or tangible. and that usually is what is the difference.

its a participant's experience. for example, its the feeling you get from the set up of the race. if you pull up to the check in area, and its totally disorganized, and the event planners/doers/staff are rushing, grumpy, confused... a racer starts with a bad taste in the mouth. they can have a great race with epic conditions, but then results come up 7 days later and everyone starts bitching and moaning about it online - which is boring as hell.

if a racer is doing a 12 hour or 24 hour race, and they and their group have nothing else to do, or even talk over between laps because the promoters didn't think about it or even care. promoters gotta show they tried - even if what they tried doesn't work.

the personalities of who's throwing the event matter. the mountain man guys are a blast. goofing off, wearing stupid clothes - its all part of the set up and experience. is a wacky hawaiian shirt cliche and stupid? sure, but it is part of the experience. the mountain man doesn't feel like a golf match, and if anything sucks in life IMHO - its a golf match where everyone is riding bikes.
 

Norm

Mayor McCheese
Team MTBNJ Halter's
This thread is beginning to hurt my head. Apologies that I have nothing to contribute beyond that, as I've been only racing for 2 years.

+1

I wrote out 2 replies to other comments but deleted them. I have a headache now. I'll leave it at that.
 

Panhead

Well-Known Member
Vibe - Slang a feeling or flavour of the kind specified

Now the Vibe I refer to at "Fun" or "Cool" events are the guys "Promoters" who have a sense of humor, have no attitude, put their personality into the events (example.... Sarah Frost after preRace announcements would say "Everyone raise your right hand, pat the person to your right on the back and say have a good race"), also state "You have jobs nothing we have to win is worth getting hurt for" ... I could go on and on about the "Personality or Vibe" whatever you want call it can be applied to an event.

Norm I know you've only really been racing the past couple years right ?? But guys like Chris G, Ryder X, Dan, and a couple other guys who I'm sure I know from back in the day know what I'm talking about. Sarah Frost gave ever promoter something to strive for as usually her events were well run, personalized to the racer where you felt as though your weren't just another 25 bucks....

Head up the the New York State series for a super cool vibe. DJ, food, beer, good folks. H2H has nothing to even compare to the feel.
 

UtahJoe

Team Workhorse
Team MTBNJ Halter's
I have a funny math related story that I would like to share with Ryan, maybe I shouldnt derail this thread though. :hmmm:
 

UtahJoe

Team Workhorse
Team MTBNJ Halter's
im embarresed to admit that I didnt know that was June Clever until after she died recently. Of course pearl doesnt know what airplane is, let alone June clever so :)
 

Norm

Mayor McCheese
Team MTBNJ Halter's
I think some of these teams need to become the real deal and sponsor, promote and run a race in 2011. It's early enough to make it happen.

Ok done.

Stay tuned for the next cool mousetrap, coming in like 3 weeks.

* sorry, I'm stuck inside all day and going a little nuts here.
 

ChrisRU

Well-Known Member
This thread came to mind after hearing all the positive feedback we were getting from racers yesterday.
 
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