24-25 Ski and Snowboard Thread

[xc62701]

Blue was great again today. Did the 4 hour morning ticket and trails when from granular to potatoes. Conditions were great and it wasn’t very crowded. My wife broke her finger yesterday so they were good to honor a credit for her pass and rentals. I’ll be back one of these next weekends.

 

[Bike N Gear]

Anybody else been following along at the shit show going on at PCMR with the ski patroller's strike?

 

[don]

Anybody else been following along at the shit show going on at PCMR with the ski patroller's strike?

I've been hearing about it for a while on https://www.instagram.com/failresorts/

And woke up to this article in my Morning Brew feed: https://www.morningbrew.com/stories....1194817&mid=bbb8726083faffd991c7dc3e5ba35f72

The $1,200 Epic season ticket isn't bad on the wallet but the long lift lines/crowded runs and other money grabs like parking fees I've seen at Stowe have been frustrating.

Not bumping hourly salaries for a position that holds a lot of responsibility and probably still underpaid for the Park City location seems pretty stupid.

On the flip side - people that don't mind poaching probably got some great runs.

 

[Bike N Gear]

On the flip side - people that don't mind poaching probably got some great runs.

But truly taking their life in their own hands. Reports of 35 working patrollers who are not familiar with the mountain compared to the normal 200 per day. No local knowledge of avi terrain after over two feet of snow. This isn't east coast terrain.

Looks like fun with 18% of the mountain open:

 

[jdog]

Rode pico thurs /fri and stratton Sat. Fun was had. Snow was good.

Conditions are back on track after a washout the week before.

Good news for me, my daughter can now ride top to bottom blue runs at real speeds.



Seeya Bromley!

 

[Norm]

Anybody else been following along at the shit show going on at PCMR with the ski patroller's strike?

I have to admit I am a little embarrassed that it took me this long to do this. But here it is...

 

[jdog]

I have to admit I am a little embarrassed that it took me this long to do this. But here it is...

My life is complete! agian!

 

[JDurk]

I have to admit I am a little embarrassed that it took me this long to do this. But here it is...

Don't even need to hit play. I'm hearing "I want my $2" in my head.

 

[Bike N Gear]

I have to admit I am a little embarrassed that it took me this long to do this. But here it is...

I grew up across the street from a golf course. Tried making one of those out of my Ross Apollo bike as a kid. Didn't work well on the 100 foot long hills.

 

[UtahJoe]

I have to admit I am a little embarrassed that it took me this long to do this. But here it is...

Skiing on 1 ski on "Great Scott" at snowbird.....very impressive...Lane really was the best.

 

[UtahJoe]

But truly taking their life in their own hands. Reports of 35 working patrollers who are not familiar with the mountain compared to the normal 200 per day. No local knowledge of avi terrain after over two feet of snow. This isn't east coast terrain.

Looks like fun with 18% of the mountain open:

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I read somewhere today that Vail resorts stock value is down close to $500 million.....obviously this is a great strategy.....Next they should reduce the lift operators salaries to "bits of string"

And in the old days when King Con was a fixed grip triple, never saw a line half that long lol.

 

[jdog]

 

[Captain Brainstorm]

I read somewhere today that Vail resorts stock value is down close to $500 million.....obviously this is a great strategy.....Next they should reduce the lift operators salaries to "bits of string"

And in the old days when King Con was a fixed grip triple, never saw a line half that long lol.

Curious to see how long their strategy lasts for. Force the regulars into an Epic Pass, but alienate all the casual skiers with outrageous prices for the non-passholders. Make all your money up front, the rest of the season becomes an exercise in spending as little as you possibly can on operations to maximize profit. I'm sure that means cutting back lift operations and trail closures on days when attendance is low. I've already seen some of this. Upside is since Hunter has gone Epic, no where near as crowded as it used to be.

 

[Bike N Gear]

Upside is since Hunter has gone Epic, no where near as crowded as it used to be.

One reason, among others is because they don't blow snow like they used to. No longer the "The snow making capital of the world."

I read Vail gets 75% of all ticket sales with their various Epic passes before the season starts. 25% from day tickets. People were paying $328/day last week to ski PCMR.

 

[UtahJoe]

People were paying $328/day last week to ski PCMR.

truly mind blowing that anyone would pay that....im sure deer valley had to go over $400 if podunk park city is $328 😂

 

[Patrick]

truly mind blowing that anyone would pay that....im sure deer valley had to go over $400 if podunk park city is $328 😂

probably can purchase discount tickets at the local Piggly Wiggly.

I remember going to Breck, in the 80s there was a ski-the-summit card.
the resorts were independent, and wanted to keep people from going over the passes to Vail or Steamboat.

after the merger of Breck/Keystone/A basin & Copper/Intrawest (mountain creek was in there) that stopped, but
discount tickets were available at Safeway. Vail Co blew that up, but there were still reasonable options.
I know we didn't pay full price at Vail or Beaver Creek.
This was before the multi-resort passes.

 

[Bike N Gear]

This was before the multi-resort passes.

But, no more. People who booked an Xmas week vacation to PCMR to use their cheap Epic Pass weren't going to find any discounts to hit a different mountain that week.

 

[jdog]

Curious to see how long their strategy lasts for. Force the regulars into an Epic Pass, but alienate all the casual skiers with outrageous prices for the non-passholders. Make all your money up front, the rest of the season becomes an exercise in spending as little as you possibly can on operations to maximize profit. I'm sure that means cutting back lift operations and trail closures on days when attendance is low. I've already seen some of this. Upside is since Hunter has gone Epic, no where near as crowded as it used to be.

All this makes non epic /icon mtns looks ideal for family trips.

My daughter almost had a panic attack when she saw how many people were at stratton on a weekend day. This after two days at Pico with mostly untracked fresh snow and likely 100-ish people on the hill vs tens of thousands of people at stratton:



On a busy day at Stratton Mountain Resort, with a lift capacity of 33,928 people per hour, you could expect several thousand skiers to ride the lifts throughout the day, though the exact number would depend on factors like lift lines, skier turnover rate, and overall resort capacity; a conservative estimate for a very busy day could be around 5,000 to 10,000 skiers.

Key points to consider:

• Lift capacity: Stratton's lifts can move 33,928 people per hour.
• Peak times: The busiest periods are likely to be weekends, holidays, and school breaks.

33,000 people up the hill per hr is insane!

 

[Patrick]

33,000 people up the hill per hr is insane!

6 person chair every 6 seconds is 60/minute ->3,600/hr

just to help get a feeling for it.

Truly crazy that there is a line, people all over the mountain.

I miss the person working the lines to pair people up. so many empty seats at blue.

 

[JPark]

All this makes non epic /icon mtns looks ideal for family trips.

My daughter almost had a panic attack when she saw how many people were at stratton on a weekend day. This after two days at Pico with mostly untracked fresh snow and likely 100-ish people on the hill vs tens of thousands of people at stratton:



On a busy day at Stratton Mountain Resort, with a lift capacity of 33,928 people per hour, you could expect several thousand skiers to ride the lifts throughout the day, though the exact number would depend on factors like lift lines, skier turnover rate, and overall resort capacity; a conservative estimate for a very busy day could be around 5,000 to 10,000 skiers.

Key points to consider:

• Lift capacity: Stratton's lifts can move 33,928 people per hour.
• Peak times: The busiest periods are likely to be weekends, holidays, and school breaks.

33,000 people up the hill per hr is insane!

Gotta love Pico!