This Thread Blows - C19 and beyond

[Norm]

CA/WA are ahead of NY and especially NJ.

Have you seen the graphs for SF and Santa Clara over the past 10 days?

Pretty interesting:

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[ilnadi]

Ok so ignoring the 7000 you’re at the same rough number as Jim. Being he has no kids he lives on Door Dash where you’ve got the standard milk problem of parenthood like I do.

My point is really that you & Jim are probably on par with how much you’re going outside and it’s just that the phrasing of the same thing that creates the appearance otherwise.

I agree with you, in the end we are all doing what we can, I never assumed Jim was out there hugging people, like I said I do not know him so it was in no way personal (sorry if it sounded so). Just discussing philosophy.

However, as to the pontificating, etc I have a few points:

1. I was raised by a grandmother who was a mother at the beginning or WW1 and a grandmother by the end of WW2 (I am not that old, I have older cousins). So I got communal responsibility beaten into me early
2. I am old enough to have lived thru cholera, dysentery, etc pandemics in Turkey at a time without all these resources (anybody remember the whole classroom getting vaccinated with the same needle?) so I have some idea what fear looks like, we ain't there yet. (panic is not the same as real fear)
3. a quote that my wife just adores

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[serviceguy]

Have you seen the graphs for SF and Santa Clara over the past 10 days?

Pretty interesting:

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Apparently in the Bay area they're not so eager to prove they're hard core riders and can relax for a couple of weeks...

 

[jdog]

On a lighter note. One of my son's friends was on his Zoom online class yesterday when one of the other students got up and walked around his room totally naked for two minutes while everyone else ROFL. Must of turned of the speaker, not the camera so didn't hear everyone.

Of course it was videoed and is probably all over Pitt and beyond.

that is fkn hilarious

 

[jdog]

My wife says she doesnt think so....she has to work at 10 today, so she'll find out.....As I recall, they got extra pay if we are in a state of emergency, so you would think they should.

If she gets extra pay, she should but that med heckler I have on the floor. It will change her life.. and mine to a lesser degree ?

 

[jdog]

Florida resident now - you nj/ny/ct folks - don't come here!

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[Paul H]

College lot by red trailhead has been closed for a week or more.

I rarely ride into HM from the college lot so I didn't know
But why? Because WP is closed? Even then... wouldn't make sense since HM is not WP's property. I guess it would make sense if they closed all the entrance into WP.

BTW.... I am hearing lots of helicopters flying over this morning.

 

[Steve Vai]

How do the folks like me and my co-workers and my family who had it 2 weeks ago fit into these numbers? Tom and I had a pretty good discussion and have been curious about all of that were sick pre-testing. Those numbers aren't being shown in any of the data. If they were, I would assume the percentages of deaths would drop significantly. Like .01% kinda numbers.

 

[JimN]

What about pedestrians standing by?

Pedestrians standing by where, in the woods? First of all, they chose to go out into the woods just like I did. Secondly, it's pretty easy to avoid people in the woods, especially if you go places where most don't. I was out for just over two hours yesterday and didn't see a single person. No other cars at the lot either. On Sunday at Wegmans on the other hand, there were hundreds of people in the store with me. Over the course of each day there must be thousands, all walking around in close proximity and touching stuff.

Apparently in the Bay area they're not so eager to prove they're hard core riders and can relax for a couple of weeks...

Haha, yeah that must be it.

 

[Norm]

How do the folks like me and my co-workers and my family who had it 2 weeks ago fit into these numbers? Tom and I had a pretty good discussion and have been curious about all of that were sick pre-testing. Those numbers aren't being shown in any of the data. If they were, I would assume the percentages of deaths would drop significantly. Like .01% kinda numbers.

Thats 1 of the points that I’ve been making. We know 3 people who have it unverified but aren’t allowed to get tested. I actually don’t know anyone who has it confirmed at this point. Someone on the board must but I don’t know who.

Taking those people into account does effect the mortality rate for sure. Does it drop it to flu levels? Probably not. But it’s likely less than statistics advertise.

I’m not sure we’ll ever know and I’m not sure it matters. But it would help lessen the hysteria after it raised the hysteria.

 

[JimN]

Taking those people into account does effect the mortality rate for sure. Does it drop it to flu levels? Probably not. But it’s likely less than statistics advertise.

I’m not sure we’ll ever know and I’m not sure it matters. But it would help lessen the hysteria after it raised the hysteria.

Yes, but keep in mind, the mortality rate is low only as long as everyone that needs treatment can get it.

 

[w_b]

Yesterday some random tree guy knocks at my door unsolicited and says PSEG will be taking down all my trees to avoid the power lines and I gotta move my truck. No ID, no last name, minimal plausibility. He’s not on my short list so I tell him to GTFAway and come back in 6 months or more.
I can’t believe my wife even answered the door.

Called the company he “was with” to see if they could verify employment, but have not heard back yet. If this is a scam I can’t fathom the motivation (free wood maybe but math doesn’t work) but the timing and the guy and his truck sure seemed sketchy....

 

[Steve Vai]

Yes, but keep in mind, the mortality rate is low only as long as everyone stays away from the other Jim

Truth. I've probably had it twice at this point and my body is currently preparing a super virus that will finally live up to the hype. I want to see big numbers. 50% at least.

 

[Norm]

Yes, but keep in mind, the mortality rate is low only as long as everyone that needs treatment can get it.

You're right, much like a life vest is only good if you fall off a boat and don't get swallowed by a whale or caught in a hurricane in the middle of the ocean. But at this point, we don't know what any real numbers are - how many people in 100 actually get it, then how many of those need treatment.

Don't get me wrong. I don't currently go to Wegmans on the weekend. I go to Acme at 7am on the weekday. I'm not gonna be part of the problem no matter where the truth lies.

 

[rick81721]

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My friend from CA sent that last night. Data makes no sense, says "declining" pretty much everywhere and if "atypical" = covid, NYC should be the darkest

 

[JimN]

You're right, much like a life vest is only good if you fall off a boat and don't get swallowed by a whale or caught in a hurricane in the middle of the ocean. But at this point, we don't know what any real numbers are - how many people in 100 actually get it, then how many of those need treatment.

While it's true that we don't know the numbers, it's probably slightly more likely that if you get coronavirus you will need treatmant, compared to falling off a boat with a life vest on but it not mattering because you landed in the mouth of a whale.

Don't get me wrong. I don't currently go to Wegmans on the weekend. I go to Acme at 7am on the weekday. I'm not gonna be part of the problem no matter where the truth lies.

Sounds like a much better strategy.

 

[Norm]

While it's true that we don't know the numbers, it's probably slightly more likely that if you get coronavirus you will need treatmant, compared to falling off a boat with a life vest on but it not mattering because you landed in the mouth of a whale.

We, in fact, have no idea how prevalent falling off a boat into the mouth of a whale is. For all we know, it happens in the whaling community all the time. I heard Jimmy Hoffa liked to go whaling in his free time.

 

[Patrick]

How do the folks like me and my co-workers and my family who had it 2 weeks ago fit into these numbers? Tom and I had a pretty good discussion and have been curious about all of that were sick pre-testing. Those numbers aren't being shown in any of the data. If they were, I would assume the percentages of deaths would drop significantly. Like .01% kinda numbers.

you end up in the pile of people that didn't get it in the end. just like the flu numbers.

 

[68nova200]

We, in fact, have no idea how prevalent falling off a boat into the mouth of a whale is. For all we know, it happens in the whaling community all the time. I heard Jimmy Hoffa liked to go whaling in his free time.

I fell off a boat near the mouth of a 20 lb salmon once. (true story) Does that help the stats???

 

[serviceguy]

Pedestrians standing by where, in the woods? First of all, they chose to go out into the woods just like I did. Secondly, it's pretty easy to avoid people in the woods, especially if you go places where most don't. I was out for just over two hours yesterday and didn't see a single person. No other cars at the lot either. On Sunday at Wegmans on the other hand, there were hundreds of people in the store with me. Over the course of each day there must be thousands, all walking around in close proximity and touching stuff.


Haha, yeah that must be it.

I used pedestrians to align to your methafor of drink and drive(btw, try to use the excuse that you’re with ‘consenting’ friends if the police stops you while drunk, again, an extension of your methapor, I don’t expect you to drink and drive, it’s bad), not referring to actual hickers.

Staying in the automotive realm for comparison, Sometime extra caution goes a long way. It’s not necessarily you, it could be someone else that acted irresponsibly and involved you in the crash. True, It can happen at any time, while you’re commuting or doing the groceries. I just don’t see why stopping to group ride with friends for a couple of weeks would cause the universe to collapse, that is my point.