Going Long and Hard.
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Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
Thanks playah!!
So a brief catchup game.
Sunday. I rode my MOUNTAIN BIKE!! Well, sorta. Hit the canal and rode over to 6-Mile to meet Sean. We meandered around 6-Mile at a nice easy non-murder pace. Then I rode to work. So 48 miles in 4 hours.
We planned to go out after work for father's day stuff but my wife seemingly misplaced her phone and I ended up sitting at the shop until almost 7pm. I was stuck because I took my fork apart to rebuild it and found that it's F'ed!!
Eventually she figured out I wasn't home yet and called me. So that's my window for my wife to actually get worried about me, 3 hours. That could come in handy at some point I'm sure.
Monday.
Now we've switched to summer camp routine and both boys go into Dunnellen. So Eric's got a 3 mile bike commute for a few weeks. Today he had a bit of a brain fade and crashed into me and Ethan. We were making a right turn, he kept going straight. T-boned us. Flipped the trailer. He went over the trailer and landed in the road. Hm. Had to bust out the dad voice and give a bit of a what for. Ethan came out completely unscathed. Eric has some road rash and took his bars to the side during some point of the crash. Dork. The roll cage and seat harness in the Burley trailer are legit though. Ethan was still firmly attached hanging upside-down.
Rode home. Swapped the Resolute back into "road-mode". Mapped out a thing to get me up into Flanders to pre-ride the next TT course. I'm starting to not like bikeroutetoaster. Besides crashing my computer when I go to upload anything into the Garmin, today it just plain made up roads that don't exist. Right off the bat it sent me up King George as my crossing at rt22. I followed it just to see if something got built while I wasn't paying attention. Nope. Road ends. There's woods. According to the Garmin I still need to go forward and there's a road on my screen. The next one was on Lake Road. It wanted me to make a left off Lake Road about 1/2 way down. Again, no road. It's a lake!! Luckily I know where I am so neither of them mattered, but it's got me thinking about how I map out something for an area I've never been.
Course is gonna be HARD!! It's a non-aero event so no fancy TT bike. Course is pretty much. Flat. Climb. Climb some steep ass switchback thing. Climb. Climb again. More climbing. Flat across that ridge. DOWN!! And then flat back to the start/finish. Murder son.
On the way back home I ran into some touring guy who was lost. He was on his way to Newark. I gave him some directions and life was good.
Picked up the boys and headed over to the cool rock climby park in the ghetto.
Ended up with like 85 miles on the day with the commute added in.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/93872590
-Jim.
So a brief catchup game.
Sunday. I rode my MOUNTAIN BIKE!! Well, sorta. Hit the canal and rode over to 6-Mile to meet Sean. We meandered around 6-Mile at a nice easy non-murder pace. Then I rode to work. So 48 miles in 4 hours.
We planned to go out after work for father's day stuff but my wife seemingly misplaced her phone and I ended up sitting at the shop until almost 7pm. I was stuck because I took my fork apart to rebuild it and found that it's F'ed!!
Eventually she figured out I wasn't home yet and called me. So that's my window for my wife to actually get worried about me, 3 hours. That could come in handy at some point I'm sure.
Monday.
Now we've switched to summer camp routine and both boys go into Dunnellen. So Eric's got a 3 mile bike commute for a few weeks. Today he had a bit of a brain fade and crashed into me and Ethan. We were making a right turn, he kept going straight. T-boned us. Flipped the trailer. He went over the trailer and landed in the road. Hm. Had to bust out the dad voice and give a bit of a what for. Ethan came out completely unscathed. Eric has some road rash and took his bars to the side during some point of the crash. Dork. The roll cage and seat harness in the Burley trailer are legit though. Ethan was still firmly attached hanging upside-down.
Rode home. Swapped the Resolute back into "road-mode". Mapped out a thing to get me up into Flanders to pre-ride the next TT course. I'm starting to not like bikeroutetoaster. Besides crashing my computer when I go to upload anything into the Garmin, today it just plain made up roads that don't exist. Right off the bat it sent me up King George as my crossing at rt22. I followed it just to see if something got built while I wasn't paying attention. Nope. Road ends. There's woods. According to the Garmin I still need to go forward and there's a road on my screen. The next one was on Lake Road. It wanted me to make a left off Lake Road about 1/2 way down. Again, no road. It's a lake!! Luckily I know where I am so neither of them mattered, but it's got me thinking about how I map out something for an area I've never been.
Course is gonna be HARD!! It's a non-aero event so no fancy TT bike. Course is pretty much. Flat. Climb. Climb some steep ass switchback thing. Climb. Climb again. More climbing. Flat across that ridge. DOWN!! And then flat back to the start/finish. Murder son.
On the way back home I ran into some touring guy who was lost. He was on his way to Newark. I gave him some directions and life was good.
Picked up the boys and headed over to the cool rock climby park in the ghetto.
Ended up with like 85 miles on the day with the commute added in.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/93872590
-Jim.
Glad to hear no one was hurt in the t-bone-ing.
Was the guy heading to newark black and on a fixie, I ran into this dude a couple of weeks ago coming from Newark and headind to Flemington. Not many people add Newark to a bike tour.
A ride tonight...see you there?
Delish
Well-Known Member
Funny. I thought the same thing.
Saw some yellow caution tape around a tree in a park yesterday and it got my heart rate going for a minute. Simple case of pre-season PCTS. (Pavlovian Caution Tape Syndrome)
Now that's funny. I've been checking the internet like crazy for a QBP number for the Limus this week. Things still haven't shown up.
dirk checken
New Member
2 months (8/21) till first race. its time !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
It's not cross time yet. Stop it!! Both of you. Soon enough😀
Tuesday. Boy commute followed by work commute followed by the A-Ride. My legs felt like poo during my ride in this morning so I was leaning towards not doing the shop ride. Of course after I found out everyone was coming up I had to go out.
Mike turned the pace up pretty hard, pretty early on. My legs were toast so I got popped as early as Liberty Corner. Luckily the group slowed up through the condos so I was able to hitch back on before Burnt Mills. Sat in through the rest of the ride until Liberty Corner #2. Got popped on the climb and never recovered, that was the end of my day. Bye bye.
When we hit the bottom of Liberty Corner the avg speed on the Garmin was 23.4. That's what happens when Mike is fresh:drooling:
Speaking of fresh. This is always one of the things I toss around in my routine. Obviously I have sunday and monday to do nice long rides but then I'm toasted for the shop ride. Sorta prefer to go longer and slower than shorter and harder. I'd like to be able to hit all 3 days and feel good on tuesday but I doubt that's in the cards. Now that summer is here and I'm back up to the big volume weeks, I'll likely hit over 12 hours in those 3 days. That's most guys entire week. Need to look back but I think I skipped the shop ride through the summer:hmmm:
OK that's it.
-Jim.
Tuesday. Boy commute followed by work commute followed by the A-Ride. My legs felt like poo during my ride in this morning so I was leaning towards not doing the shop ride. Of course after I found out everyone was coming up I had to go out.
Mike turned the pace up pretty hard, pretty early on. My legs were toast so I got popped as early as Liberty Corner. Luckily the group slowed up through the condos so I was able to hitch back on before Burnt Mills. Sat in through the rest of the ride until Liberty Corner #2. Got popped on the climb and never recovered, that was the end of my day. Bye bye.
When we hit the bottom of Liberty Corner the avg speed on the Garmin was 23.4. That's what happens when Mike is fresh:drooling:
Speaking of fresh. This is always one of the things I toss around in my routine. Obviously I have sunday and monday to do nice long rides but then I'm toasted for the shop ride. Sorta prefer to go longer and slower than shorter and harder. I'd like to be able to hit all 3 days and feel good on tuesday but I doubt that's in the cards. Now that summer is here and I'm back up to the big volume weeks, I'll likely hit over 12 hours in those 3 days. That's most guys entire week. Need to look back but I think I skipped the shop ride through the summer:hmmm:
OK that's it.
-Jim.
ArmyOfNone
Well-Known Member
Not having been on this ride I can not give a completely accurate response. But I would think that it probably doesnt hurt to do these rides. I just wouldnt have big expectations. If you feel good ride hard if not just sit in and have the fast kids laugh at you.
I have been doing 12 hour or so weeks the last couple of weeks and when i comes to the weekends races I show up not expecting to much. So if it goes well its at least a pleasant surprise. Maybe?
I have been doing 12 hour or so weeks the last couple of weeks and when i comes to the weekends races I show up not expecting to much. So if it goes well its at least a pleasant surprise. Maybe?
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
Goals? I have no goals. I'm under the Flyin' Fin's plan of just do a lot of base and eventually you'll get so strong you'll never need to peak, do intervals, or ride hard again. While it's a slow process with little to no immediate race results, it has served to generally raise my fitness level and I'm confident at some point it'll pay off. It has for so many of the other FinKraft guys. As a recent example, I could still sit in and ride with the group last night (mostly) even with the load I've taken over the past few weeks. That's gotta at least show that even when my legs are blown I can still go pretty quick, no? Point is. I have no point. Oh wait yes, another example. MP Hammer came back from a week-long training camp in Italy where he did some sort of stupid mileage and insane amount of climbing and was completely shot. He looked like hell a few days later at the state TT's. Said he could barely walk, he was blown, you could see it. However, his base is so retarded that even completely blown and barely being able to pedal his bike, he won the 35+ and got top 5 overall. That's sorta what I'm looking for. No peaks, no special event training, just show up and always have a shot at riding well. Wait was there still no point there? I don't think there was. Dangit!! Now I'm gonna be late for work😀
-Jim.
-Jim.
Yeah you didn't answer the question really 🙂
Roger's approach is capped with racing weekends. I think the reason his guys do so well is because they also race 45 times a year on top of those miles. They also want to race well so they have that as a specific goal.
So I'm wondering, more specifically, if just riding is what you want to do or you also want to race well come cross season. That's really going to dictate your answer. I'm not talking about peaks and targets, but what's the point of riding? Race well, do epic rides, lose weight, cure cancer, etc? Something else? All of it? None of it? You don't know? Don't care? Bananas?
Roger's approach is capped with racing weekends. I think the reason his guys do so well is because they also race 45 times a year on top of those miles. They also want to race well so they have that as a specific goal.
So I'm wondering, more specifically, if just riding is what you want to do or you also want to race well come cross season. That's really going to dictate your answer. I'm not talking about peaks and targets, but what's the point of riding? Race well, do epic rides, lose weight, cure cancer, etc? Something else? All of it? None of it? You don't know? Don't care? Bananas?
ArmyOfNone
Well-Known Member
Bananas!!
ArmyOfNone
Well-Known Member
Word. I like this summary.
LOL yeah we all want to have our cake and eat it too. Too bad that never really works unless you sandbag. Rumor has it that they're going to combine the A and 35+ classes this year, which means that alongside myself, Jim will be lining up with guys like Freddie, Roger A, Maurice, and so on. Going to need some sharp implements if you want to inflict pain on that group.
Also, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that 300 miles in 2 days is, in fact, training. As is riding 12 hours in 3 days. Just one man's opinion though.
kush
Active Member
That's a fact, jack.