ISO Retail Space in Morristown

Paul H said:
Any of those taco places going out of business? Lol
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i think only one taco joint actually has a license. There's a long-vacant former deli a few doors down from the brewery they're opening in Madison though, and a vacant Salon right next door to it.... I bet that Deli space is cheap but it's small and probably needs work.
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Santapez said:
$1million+

If you can even get one. Gotta buy it from someone else.
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That’s what’s hurting food in NJ. When I lived in South Orange all the places with liquor licenses had garbage food, and all the new spots actually trying to make decent food didn’t survive. NY makes it a lot easier to get a liquor license.
 
Jmann said:
That’s what’s hurting food in NJ. When I lived in South Orange all the places with liquor licenses had garbage food, and all the new spots actually trying to make decent food didn’t survive. NY makes it a lot easier to get a liquor license.
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Same reason the brewery they mentioned above will have a tough time.... Can't even serve food.
 
qclabrat said:
That's pretty much everywhere. They have a rotating food vendor at Other Half in Brooklyn
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I know VT and PA can.
I know a lot of breweries in other states have food trucks but is that because they can't or just choose not to make/sell food?
 
There’s an abandoned Boston Market here, maybe you can just move in. And then you’ll be close to me if you have good food.
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Did you look at Morris Plains too? Close enough to Motown. New strip mall between Panda Express and Aldi. Not all the spaces have businesses yet.
 
Cole said:
I know VT and PA can.
I know a lot of breweries in other states have food trucks but is that because they can't or just choose not to make/sell food?
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Depends a bit on what their intention is. Some places just want to brew beer and know the food end isn't their specialty so they farm it out to food trucks etc.

We have 5 breweries in my town. Two don't serve food but one is downtown by a few take-out options. One brewery has a mini take-out Mexican place in it, but they technically lease that space to the restaurant and so it's a symbiotic relationship. On Mondays when the kitchen is closed they have a pizza food truck.

Another brewery has a kitchen with good pub food and on Mondays when the kitchen is closed they have a rotating food truck. Another has a permanent food truck outside that they own/run.

The ones with food are far more popular than the two without food.
 
Santapez said:
Depends a bit on what their intention is. Some places just want to brew beer and know the food end isn't their specialty so they farm it out to food trucks etc.

We have 5 breweries in my town. Two don't serve food but one is downtown by a few take-out options. One brewery has a mini take-out Mexican place in it, but they technically lease that space to the restaurant and so it's a symbiotic relationship. On Mondays when the kitchen is closed they have a pizza food truck.

Another brewery has a kitchen with good pub food and on Mondays when the kitchen is closed they have a rotating food truck. Another has a permanent food truck outside that they own/run.

The ones with food are far more popular than the two without food.
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Yeah, I guess that's kinda my point.... They should have the option to sell food
 
Paul,

Check out the foot traffic/deliveries at the grilled cheese place down the hill from the square. Pretty good food, too.PXL_20240707_144315010.jpg
 
did anything ever move into the space next to millie's on south street?

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Santapez said:
$1million+

If you can even get one. Gotta buy it from someone else.
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Yes, but probably worth it, unless at some point, NJ decides to really ease up on the liquor laws. I imagine any new restaurant business in the Motown area is going to require some serious capital. Rent has to be close to 10K all in for any decent sized place in Motown.

I know you weren't a big fan of Tito's, but that place seemed pretty busy and they couldn't make it. It's got to be tough to just sell food.
 
roc said:
Yes, but probably worth it, unless at some point, NJ decides to really ease up on the liquor laws. I imagine any new restaurant business in the Motown area is going to require some serious capital. Rent has to be close to 10K all in for any decent sized place in Motown.

I know you weren't a big fan of Tito's, but that place seemed pretty busy and they couldn't make it. It's got to be tough to just sell food.
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I think Tito's had bigger issues at the end. It had the typical issues of going downhill post-Covid where the menu shrunk, lost the salsa bar, service went to crap and they started getting a ton of competition. They were probably profitable pre-Covid but with all the rising costs especially rent they were struggling.

I thing the big issue is that unless you're a chain with lots of efficiencies built in, it's hard to make it. It's *really* hard to just be a mom & pop restaurant in a town like Morristown. It's either chains or investor owned restaurants.

I didn't hate Titos, we ate there often enough when the weather was nice enough to sit outside. But they have the same problem as most places like there where everything basically tastes the same and it's easy to get sick of it. Tito's tastes like Titos, Tacoria tastes like Tacoria, Chipotle has the generic Chipotle taste, etc.

I think Macho Nacho moving and to me going downhill was what really burned me.
 
Santapez said:
I think Tito's had bigger issues at the end. It had the typical issues of going downhill post-Covid where the menu shrunk, lost the salsa bar, service went to crap and they started getting a ton of competition. They were probably profitable pre-Covid but with all the rising costs especially rent they were struggling.

I thing the big issue is that unless you're a chain with lots of efficiencies built in, it's hard to make it. It's *really* hard to just be a mom & pop restaurant in a town like Morristown. It's either chains or investor owned restaurants.

I didn't hate Titos, we ate there often enough when the weather was nice enough to sit outside. But they have the same problem as most places like there where everything basically tastes the same and it's easy to get sick of it. Tito's tastes like Titos, Tacoria tastes like Tacoria, Chipotle has the generic Chipotle taste, etc.

I think Macho Nacho moving and to me going downhill was what really burned me.
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I miss tito's, they had great fries. No idea how the ramen place can make any money!
 
This macaron spot on main st in Madison lasted like a year and is now vacant but directly across the street are 2 long-standing take-out/small eat-in places (Mediterranean and Thai) that have been there for at least 10years. Liquor store directly next door for easy BYOB.1726235199493.png
 
gmb3 said:
This macaron spot on main st in Madison lasted like a year and is now vacant but directly across the street are 2 long-standing take-out/small eat-in places (Mediterranean and Thai) that have been there for at least 10years. Liquor store directly next door for easy BYOB.View attachment 247422
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I'm looking at Madison when we downsize, how's the overall town financial history
 
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