Cars, it's electric! Do Do Do

shrpshtr325 said:
infrastructure would need to adapt, but this is the only way i see for city dwellers to be able to adopt electrics, (i mean you could do the same in parking garages, one charger per space, they lock to the car till you pay)
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payment is negotiated at the interface when plugged in.

It wouldn't be ridiculous to have a charging station that moves in a garage.
ie - services 4 cars at a time x 1 for each row x 1 for each floor -

The grid can be managed - charging rates (ampHours), priority, planned trip, amount remaining - all factors, along with current load from A/C etc.
you could even pay for priority (or lack of planning)

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We are also holding onto the old model of owning a car, parking it out front, driving it, parking it.....
It is going to go to a subscription model where you either schedule, or summon a car. It will show up, and
take you someplace, then go on its way (maybe to the next ride or recharge) -
Then the parking spots will be bike lanes -

it would be the right size car for the mission too. right number of seats to keep weight down.
kid seats, room for luggage if needed, etc.
 
Patrick said:
payment is negotiated at the interface when plugged in.

It wouldn't be ridiculous to have a charging station that moves in a garage.
ie - services 4 cars at a time x 1 for each row x 1 for each floor -

The grid can be managed - charging rates (ampHours), priority, planned trip, amount remaining - all factors, along with current load from A/C etc.
you could even pay for priority (or lack of planning)

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We are also holding onto the old model of owning a car, parking it out front, driving it, parking it.....
It is going to go to a subscription model where you either schedule, or summon a car. It will show up, and
take you someplace, then go on its way (maybe to the next ride or recharge) -
Then the parking spots will be bike lanes -

it would be the right size car for the mission too. right number of seats to keep weight down.
kid seats, room for luggage if needed, etc.
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Wake me up when this dream becomes reality.
 
tonyride said:
Great. It works for you. My situation is different so right now and EV isn't a good fit for me, at least not today. My biggest issue is when the government steps in and starts the EV mandate or people telling me that an EV is better for me and I should get one. Maybe I just don't like people telling me what to do without good reasons.
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ICEs aren't going away in our kids' grandkids' lifetime.
 
rick81721 said:
ICEs aren't going away in our kids' grandkids' lifetime.
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true - we need them to power the generators.

so 100 years? Sounds reasonable.
That means they had a 250 year run. that's pretty good.
 
Patrick said:
We are also holding onto the old model of owning a car, parking it out front, driving it, parking it.....
It is going to go to a subscription model where you either schedule, or summon a car. It will show up, and
take you someplace, then go on its way (maybe to the next ride or recharge) -
Then the parking spots will be bike lanes -
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Again, this isn't happening during our kid's grandkids' lifetime. If at all. Perhaps some will adopt in an urban environment.
 
rick81721 said:
Again, this isn't happening during our kid's grandkids' lifetime. If at all. Perhaps some will adopt in an urban environment.
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it is already here - just isn't built out to that level.
zipcar, uber, etc.
adaptive braking, super cruise, partial self driving, etc are preparing us for the switch.

besides, all the people driving their own cars, cause the can't change, will screw it up.

what is going to happen first? Immersive VR or Self Driving cars?
cause i don't need a car at all with immersive VR.

rick81721 said:
Go to car shows. People are still driving 100+ year old cars.
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Absolutely, they won't go away - that is nostalgia.
the e-car carrier will deliver it to the show, or the track, or the cruise.
grab your fuel ration, and have at it.
 
Patrick said:
it is already here - just isn't built out to that level.
zipcar, uber, etc.
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Totally different. Just a replacement for taxi service. Freedom will never be subordinated to this degree.
Patrick said:
Absolutely, they won't go away - that is nostalgia.
the e-car carrier will deliver it to the show, or the track, or the cruise.
grab your fuel ration, and have at it.
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Haha more pipedreams. Making hydrocarbon fuels isn't rocket science - people will be making their own from garbage!
 
This thread just goes round and round with the same arguments and a lot of predicting the future. Even so, I can't resist throwing in an additional two cents on my current experience with an EV. Or, is it my opinion?

Time savings gassing up at the pump vs charging an EV? I charge at home 90% of the time (so do most EV drivers). Even when I was commuting 120 miles a day, I would've been charging at home almost all of the time. About 10% of the time, I charge at a fast charger, which takes much longer than gassing up at the pump.

I would gas up my ICE car at least once a week (more when I was commuting 120 miles a day). Be real, by the time the guy shows up to take your credit card (Jersey), swipes it, begins fueling and comes back once fueling stops, it has been around 15 minutes. Even if it were 8 minutes (really?), add all that up over time and I'm sure I spent much more time at the pump with my ICE car than I ever will at the charger with my EV. Time is time.

My opinion: Stopping for gas was an annoying inconvenience. I do not feel that at all occasionally charging the EV at a fast charger.
 
SAM said:
I would gas up my ICE car at least once a week (more when I was commuting 120 miles a day). Be real, by the time the guy shows up to take your credit card (Jersey), swipes it, begins fueling and comes back once fueling stops, it has been around 15 minutes. Even if it were 8 minutes (really?),
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umm was @rick81721 the only gas station attendant working at your pumps? even waiting for someone doesnt add 12 minutes to my stop (neglecting any time spent waiting if its busy and theres a line, which for me at least is a rare occurrence, and the inconvenience is the line)
 
shrpshtr325 said:
umm was @rick81721 the only gas station attendant working at your pumps? even waiting for someone doesnt add 12 minutes to my stop (neglecting any time spent waiting if its busy and theres a line, which for me at least is a rare occurrence, and the inconvenience is the line)
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JonF said:
This is my wife's cousin's exact situation. Apparently they drive down to the bar that has chargers and do it there. I guess they frequent it enough to may it work. Seems strange to have hedged your bet on such a strange high-cost, low-convenience arrangement but whatever.
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Sounds like Virtue Signaling to me
 
I'm actually surprised how fast my latest gas stop was time wise. I still hate going to the gas station.
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Lap 1: entering gas station until pump started
Lap 2: pump start to pump stop. 15.8 gallons
Lap 3: pump stop until nozzle removed from car
Lap 4: nozzle removed until exiting gas station
 
I find it funny that we’ve embraced a future (and present) with EVs, hybrids, E-bikes and alternative fuel sources but this country can’t embrace the metric system!
As a kid in the ‘70s that’s all we heard was that by 1982 everything would be using the superior metric system and eating tasty Royalé with Cheese burgers.
 
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