Is the inflated Bike market finally crashing?

Ian F said:
I guess the question is if I'm mainly riding on the road - why? I have a gravel bike. I ridden it on gravel twice. Didn't really enjoy it either time. I'd rather have a road bike that is optimized for how I plan to ride it 99.9% of the time. As capable as new gravel bikes may be, it will still be a compromise compared to proper road bike when riding on the road.

WTF is "grassel"? :shrug:
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I guess I can see that a gravel bike with essentially road geometry but the ability to take a larger tire is a pretty minimal compromise vs a dedicated road bike except for that last percentage of performance that may or may not be noticeable to most people.
 
ebarker9 said:
I guess I can see that a gravel bike with essentially road geometry but the ability to take a larger tire is a pretty minimal compromise vs a dedicated road bike except for that last percentage of performance that may or may not be noticeable to most people.
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I think this is the key, which is why “normal” road Geo can fit 30-32 now.
 
ebarker9 said:
I guess I can see that a gravel bike with essentially road geometry but the ability to take a larger tire is a pretty minimal compromise vs a dedicated road bike except for that last percentage of performance that may or may not be noticeable to most people.
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While I know there are exceptions, from what I've seen there are two main differences between gravel and road bikes (three if you count flared bars, but I can't stand those, so whatever bike I have will have std drop bars). 1st is gearing: Most of the gravel bikes I've seen have 1x setups with mtn bike-like rear cassettes. Road bikes generally still have 2x front rings and closer ratio cassettes. 2nd is the geo: For road riding, I prefer a significant seat to bar drop. I have my Grade set up as low as it will go, but there is still so much head tube on the bike, the stem has a minimum height. It's fine for rides around an hour or so, but for longer rides the upright position is surprisingly uncomfortable for me.
 
Ian F said:
While I know there are exceptions, from what I've seen there are two main differences between gravel and road bikes (three if you count flared bars, but I can't stand those, so whatever bike I have will have std drop bars). 1st is gearing: Most of the gravel bikes I've seen have 1x setups with mtn bike-like rear cassettes. Road bikes generally still have 2x front rings and closer ratio cassettes. 2nd is the geo: For road riding, I prefer a significant seat to bar drop. I have my Grade set up as low as it will go, but there is still so much head tube on the bike, the stem has a minimum height. It's fine for rides around an hour or so, but for longer rides the upright position is surprisingly uncomfortable for me.
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They adapted the "endurance" category of yesteryear (c-dale synapse was an example of that) which was essentially a more upright position, however not uncomfortable.
 
stb222 said:
They adapted the "endurance" category of yesteryear (c-dale synapse was an example of that) which was essentially a more upright position, however not uncomfortable.
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Well... I guess after 30 years of riding Euro race geometry, that is what is comfortable for me. Even on my DH race bikes, I tended to run the bars lower than pretty much anyone else found comfortable. :shrug:
 
Ian F said:
While I know there are exceptions, from what I've seen there are two main differences between gravel and road bikes (three if you count flared bars, but I can't stand those, so whatever bike I have will have std drop bars). 1st is gearing: Most of the gravel bikes I've seen have 1x setups with mtn bike-like rear cassettes. Road bikes generally still have 2x front rings and closer ratio cassettes. 2nd is the geo: For road riding, I prefer a significant seat to bar drop. I have my Grade set up as low as it will go, but there is still so much head tube on the bike, the stem has a minimum height. It's fine for rides around an hour or so, but for longer rides the upright position is surprisingly uncomfortable for me.
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My 2016 Domane 5.2 is considered an “endurance” road bike and compared to my 2021 Checkpoint the only major difference is the stem is actually 0degree or maybe 1 so feels a little more “agressive “.

That being said I can ride either one all day and I don’t have any issues between the two since the rest of the geo is pretty much the same.

And I purposely wanted a 2x up front for the times I ride the roads with my 2nd wheel set. The difference in gearing doesn’t really have a penalty because I’m not THAT fast and if I have the gravel bike on the roads it’s mostly during the winter season when all the debris is around and I prefer disc brakes and 32cm tires over rim brakes and 25cm.

I think it I was forced to have one bike (the worst nightmare ) I would be able to manage on the gravel bike all year round.
 
Definitely seeing an uptick in bike ads for older road bikes, MTBs and hybrids coming out of the woodwork on marketplace. Unfortunately no decent gravel bikes coming up in my size though!
 
a.s. said:
Used bike ads blowing up on PB and FB. Holidays coming and my guess is people need the cheddar. Also seeing prices come down a lot.
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With what they were paying for bikes, I just assumed it was a money laundering outfit
 
Bike N Gear said:
The market must be crashing over at Specialized. Their normal EP program allows one or two bikes a year per employee, for self use only. Out of the goodness of their hearts it has been increased to 5 bikes per employee with unlimited kid's bikes.
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It's still 2 bikes plus a Demo and a F&F Deal, unlimited kids bikes. They also have a list of products we can't buy as Employees. 5 may be the deal for IBD EPs because you guys pay like 80% more than us.
 
jimvreeland said:
It's still 2 bikes plus a Demo and a F&F Deal, unlimited kids bikes. They also have a list of products we can't buy as Employees. 5 may be the deal for IBD EPs because you guys pay like 80% more than us.
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There ya' go Gary....Don't you feel better now!?
 
Bike N Gear said:
The market must be crashing over at Specialized. Their normal EP program allows one or two bikes a year per employee, for self use only. Out of the goodness of their hearts it has been increased to 5 bikes per employee with unlimited kid's bikes.
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GARY!! You were right, they upped our EP!! They sent it out today. Too bad they still don't have any of the bikes I want to buy in stock...
 
a.s. said:
Used bike ads blowing up on PB and FB. Holidays coming and my guess is people need the cheddar. Also seeing prices come down a lot.
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How is anybody dealing with the $600 rule on Paypal, Venmo etc. payments when selling their used bike? As much as I don't like the idea I may have to unload the inventory at some point...
 
serviceguy said:
How is anybody dealing with the $600 rule on Paypal, Venmo etc. payments when selling their used bike? As much as I don't like the idea I may have to unload the inventory at some point...
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Isn't the 1099 only to track and tax gains mainly for people in business who sell for profit? If you take a loss on selling something like a used bike/part, it doesn't apply?
 
JonF said:
Isn't the 1099 only to track and tax gains mainly for people in business who sell for profit? If you take a loss on selling something like a used bike/part, it doesn't apply?
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My understanding is if you have the original sales receipt showing you didn't profit from the sale of the bike then you won't have to pay any taxes. The kicker is they're still figuring out the details of that. Yup, talk about a $h!t show. They roll out the law without figuring everything out first.
 
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