E-bikes are a thing

[Meineke]

So you're saying the woods were crowded before you were in them. Now they're crowded +1.

I started riding in northern nj in 2005

 

[Steve Vai]

I started riding in northern nj in 2005

Where does Northern NJ start?

 

[mattybfat]

Where does Northern NJ start?

At the Taylor ham boarder

 

[serviceguy]

Where does Northern NJ start?

Isn't that just a tad north of Northern Central Jersey?

 

[Norm]

Where does Northern NJ start?

Allaire. Our group crossed the Mason Dixon line 13 times on Saturday.

It’s pork roll.

 

[SAM]

Where does Northern NJ start?

Even more controversial, is there a Central Jersey?

 

[Steve Vai]

Even more controversial, is there a Central Jersey?

There is. We eat Taylor Roll.

 

[a.s.]

Interesting read. As someone who frequently travels on NYCs bike lanes, I understand this all too well. I also think this will someday become a problem on the trails - if it’s not already. I’m all for ebikes, don’t get me wrong, but I highly suggest you read the article and imagine what our trails could be like in 5, 10, 20 years.

America's E-Bike Revolution Is in Trouble

America needs to sort out what it calls an e-bike.

www.treehugger.com

 

[Steve Vai]

Interesting read. As someone who frequently travels on NYCs bike lanes, I understand this all too well. I also think this will someday become a problem on the trails - if it’s not already. I’m all for ebikes, don’t get me wrong, but I highly suggest you read the article and imagine what our trails could be like in 5, 10, 20 years.

America's E-Bike Revolution Is in Trouble

America needs to sort out what it calls an e-bike.

www.treehugger.com

This article is Road/Commuter Based, eMTB won't ever have these issues. This article also doesn't touch on the Legislation that's going through NYC and other cities to deal with Class2 "bikes" Those are where the carnage is right now.

 

[mattybfat]

This article is Road/Commuter Based, eMTB won't ever have these issues. This article also doesn't touch on the Legislation that's going through NYC and other cities to deal with Class2 "bikes" Those are where the carnage is right now.

Damn I should of read your reply first, then I could of saved a few wasted mins.

 

[Patrick]

What Jim Said -

And i'll throw this out there. Why do we need 4,000lb vehicle capable of 100+mph that takes up 100sqft of space transporting 1 person around a city where the top speed
in most places is 30mph?

1 of the reasons is that there are other 4,000lb vehicles which require countermeasures.
If that isn't high on the personal security list - which if you've been to the city lately, there are many that it isn't,
go ahead and split lanes, swerve, blow through lights, turn on red (in either direction)
split pedestrians, ride on the sidewalk, cut through the parks.....

 

[JPark]

This article is Road/Commuter Based, eMTB won't ever have these issues. This article also doesn't touch on the Legislation that's going through NYC and other cities to deal with Class2 "bikes" Those are where the carnage is right now.

I think the one aspect that could effect MTB are the throttle based e-bikes.
That's where they can cause trail damage, not to mention roosting dirt on hikers.

 

[JPark]

What Jim Said -

And i'll throw this out there. Why do we need 4,000lb vehicle capable of 100+mph that takes up 100sqft of space transporting 1 person around a city where the top speed
in most places is 30mph?

1 of the reasons is that there are other 4,000lb vehicles which require countermeasures.
If that isn't high on the personal security list - which if you've been to the city lately, there are many that it isn't,
go ahead and split lanes, swerve, blow through lights, turn on red (in either direction)
split pedestrians, ride on the sidewalk, cut through the parks.....

Maybe bike lanes will need a speed limit.
On a highway you have cars with a top speed of 80mph driving alongside cars with a top speed of 180mph.

 

[shrpshtr325]

Maybe bike lanes will need a speed limit.

because people follow them so well in cars?

On a highway you have cars with a top speed of 80mph driving alongside cars with a top speed of 180mph.

how many cars are on the road that top out at 80? jesus, even my full size truck isnt limited till over 100

 

[a.s.]

This article is Road/Commuter Based, eMTB won't ever have these issues. This article also doesn't touch on the Legislation that's going through NYC and other cities to deal with Class2 "bikes" Those are where the carnage is right now.

Talk to me in 10 years when eMTB motors are the size of modern bottom brackets, batteries are tiny and the output is 1200w. I can already see bike manufacturers adding a "cruise" feature so you can "take the road to your favorite trail and leave the car at home." I especially like the point the writer makes about how Americans always want and need more.

 

[Patrick]

because people follow them so well in cars?



how many cars are on the road that top out at 80? jesus, even my full size truck isnt limited till over 100

 

[Patrick]

Talk to me in 10 years when eMTB motors are the size of modern bottom brackets, batteries are tiny and the output is 1200w. I can already see bike manufacturers adding a "cruise" feature so you can "take the road to your favorite trail and leave the car at home." I especially like the point the writer makes about how Americans always want and need more.

This is also a thing - give an inch in the beginning, it just keeps creeping "up"

Maybe registration will be a thing for any higher class eBike?

We still have problems with moto on the trail. At least they can be heard.

 

[Paul H]

Maybe bike lanes will need a speed limit.
On a highway you have cars with a top speed of 80mph driving alongside cars with a top speed of 180mph.

In NYC... I don't see the pt of speed limits on the bike lane.... especially during weekday. Too much traffic and the risk of pedestrians popping out of nowhere. Not to mention potholes.

 

[rick81721]

This is also a thing - give an inch in the beginning, it just keeps creeping "up"

Maybe registration will be a thing for any higher class eBike?

We still have problems with moto on the trail. At least they can be heard.

The "thing" is technological advancement? Registration might be a good idea but in another 5 years many ebikes will be indistinguishable from analog bikes. Will they voluntarily register them? I doubt it.

 

[Patrick]

The "thing" is technological advancement? Registration might be a good idea but in another 5 years many ebikes will be indistinguishable from analog bikes. Will be voluntarily register them? I doubt it.

maybe they are titled vehicles and can't be sold without title transfer....