Traffic Tickets (complaint summons)

rick81721 said:
Who carries ID on your bike? The only one I have is my road ID bracelet
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same here. (except my road id is the dog tag style) i dont carry id on the bike either, dont want to risk loosing it (having it fall out of pack or pocket, i also dont carry car keys for this reason), didnt think it was required.

@Carson could probably shed some light on this.
 
Dingo said:
I do think it's like nazi germany when the cops ask it for while riding your bike.

SIEG HEIL
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The last time I had to deal with ID, We got busted riding South Mtn. Cop freaked out about not having DL or any proof of ID. Lucky for me I know my DL number by memory

MADSKILZ

Some how I sweet talked my way into just a fine.. Still pisses me off, but have since adjusted to the fact that having ID is important.
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Or a bike license...
 
I'd love to know what the cyclist did to get these tickets. Something doesn't make sense. In my experience, cops generally don't go out of their way to be unreasonable. There's got to be more to this one....
 
sptimmy43 said:
I'd love to know what the cyclist did to get these tickets. Something doesn't make sense. In my experience, cops generally don't go out of their way to be unreasonable. There's got to be more to this one....
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Agree, this doesn't smell right, esp 2 tickets. The cyclist had to do something to warrant such treatment.
 
sptimmy43 said:
I'd love to know what the cyclist did to get these tickets. Something doesn't make sense. In my experience, cops generally don't go out of their way to be unreasonable. There's got to be more to this one....
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Yeah.... when I got pulled over last year, it was because I burned a red light. Only then the cop started asking about bells and whatnot.
 
grilledcheeseking said:
"No audible signal on bicycle" I can yell louder than my bell without taking my hands off the bars so that's silly.

As for the ID, I always have on me, but is it actually mandatory to carry ID in NJ? I didnt think so but this thread is making me question everything I think I know.

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I'd be very careful with the Nazi comparisons. Cop just gave this guy a ticket; may be jerky but no one is being sent to gas chambers.
 
stilluf said:
I'd be very careful with the Nazi comparisons. Cop just gave this guy a ticket; may be jerky but no one is being sent to gas chambers.
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You're spot on, sorry. I was just pointing toward the phrase "your papers please" in a humorous way - one of my friends throws it around pretty willy nilly so I guess I don't take it too seriously. But, internets and perception and stuff.
 
It’s easy to make a photocopy of a license and medical insurance card and keep in your bag with tube& tools, or in your hydration pack.

I think it makes sense to carry copy of medical insurance card for both Road and MTB rides.
 
Wow. West Milford cop issuing 2 to a West Milford resident. That's...something.

The law is a little fuzzy on ID. Maybe.

Yes, you need a DL operating a motor vehicle.
No, you don't need ID to walk down the road as a pedestrian.

The law doesn't specifically say you need ID while operating a bicycle, which is a means of conveyance but not a motor vehicle, on public roadways but it doesn't say you don't either. My take is you don't need to produce ID. You can run a DL by name and DOB anyway.

If you are stopped for a violation (or a perceived violation) of motor vehicle law you are required to identify yourself. If you decide to remain silent you are obstructing and will most likely be arrested.
 
Carson said:
Wow. West Milford cop issuing 2 to a West Milford resident. That's...something.

The law is a little fuzzy on ID. Maybe.

Yes, you need a DL operating a motor vehicle.
No, you don't need ID to walk down the road as a pedestrian.

The law doesn't specifically say you need ID while operating a bicycle, which is a means of conveyance but not a motor vehicle, on public roadways but it doesn't say you don't either. My take is you don't need to produce ID. You can run a DL by name and DOB anyway.

If you are stopped for a violation (or a perceived violation) of motor vehicle law you are required to identify yourself. If you decide to remain silent you are obstructing and will most likely be arrested.
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This is partly why I always wave to local cops - figure it can't hurt to be on their good side, and no one else rides around with clown shoes like mine
 
I could only assume the rider was way too far out in the car driving area and most likely impeding traffic when he or she could have been on the shoulder or closer to it. I can't see an officer going out of his way to give a bicycle a ticket let alone two for no reason.
 
So I've been thinking about this a bit... And would like to revise/add to my previous comment. (Again, I am not a lawyer nor a cop and will default to their opinions and knowledge here. Everyone else not so much. ;P )

I'd fight both tickets. The laws are vague at best. As long as it's not a siren or whistle, an argument can be made for your voice being louder and carrying better over the stated 100 feet in title 39. It's also a lot more clearer to say "on your left!" than just ding ding of a bell.

I don't ride in the shoulder like 99.9% of the time. Why? Shoulder widths vary and can vary quickly. They can go from 6 feet wide to nothing in moments. That means cars will get awfully close very fast. And you have to deal with all the garbage and shit in the shoulders. No thanks. I like not getting flats and crashing.

And last... I don't know the street where this biker was ticketed, but I do often take the lane and take up as much space as I can. Now, this is places like around Morristown where I'm capable of going at the speed limit where I'm not technically impeding traffic or it's for a limited time (say a blind turn). I do it so cars don't pass me for safety reasons. I would like to know what this biker was doing. I can't imagine me getting a ticket in Morristown doing what I'm doing. But I do know a few "characters" here that would get pulled over just because.
 
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