The titanium bike thread

Victor I said:
Ultimately it takes more effort than hydraulic brakes but it works for me.
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How much more?
Been thinking about mech brakes for my Ragley
All about less maintenance for me these days and I rather change a cable than do a bleed job.
 
don said:
I've always associated Turner with making high quality robust frames that he stands behind. Years ago I'd read the MTBR Turner forum just to read his comments/input. I agree any material can fail and it depends on how it was built and used. I feel like Turner would stand by anything that happens to your frame - he's been around for a long time.

Dave Taylor - where was the failure point on your Vassago? Was it stressed induced or quality of the materials and weld? My friend has built a couple Ti frames and said it is a tricky material to work with both in welding with it and spec'ing tube thickness and design. But when done correctly can last a very long time.
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Right chainstay near dropout. 95% of people don't weld titanium property because it's a pita .
 
Paul H said:
How much more?
Been thinking about mech brakes for my Ragley
All about less maintenance for me these days and I rather change a cable than do a bleed job.
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Not a big difference that I noticed but I’m easy on brakes so better you try it and see. Try it next time we ride together throw a leg over the bike. I may be able to make the OOS High Mountain ride if you are going. Or maybe a pre ride…
 
liong71er said:
Not teying yo be patry pooper🤣 @Victor I FYI i have breaks three Different Titanium Frame (Litespeed,On One,Titus All Warranty) and all of them failed at headtube Section,and they are riden very hard i blame NJ trails🤣🤣
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I don't really think it matter what frame material is used. Mtb frames break. My list includes 3 aluminum frames, 3 carbon frames, and 3 steel frames since '08 when I got back into mtbing. All replaced under warranty. The aluminum and carbon frames were just visible cracks. One of the steel frames was the most catastrophic failure and lucky for me, I heard it on a climb and stopped to inspect before a rocky Wissahickon descent.
 
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Only observations from what I see, hear and read as I’m no expert. I’m confused as one always hears about titanium as being the ultimate but is expensive(unless one finds a deal). I have heard about production design and quality issues with many brands for aluminum and carbon frames. Like the running joke for years for Cannondale was Crack and Fail but they appear to be doing well these days. Then some Gary Fisher frames(forgot if before or after Trek bought him out)-aluminum and carbon frame failures. Not sure if maybe the time period has something to do with it as I noticed many of these issues around 10 -12 years ago but it appears designs and quality control have improved. And what @don said about Turner. I have no concerns about this frame. Can something happen with any frame, yes. There are 6,759 members on this website. I would be curious to know % of frame failures based on material type. Maybe someone can start a new thread…
 
Victor I said:
Cannondale was Crack and Fail but they appear to be doing well these days
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That would be the 3 alum and 3 carbon frames I mentioned above. Just a matter of time before it occurs again with my current carbon HT and FS. 2 of the steel frames were Niner, the 3rd will remain anonymous.
 
JDurk said:
I don't really think it matter what frame material is used. Mtb frames break. My list includes 3 aluminum frames, 3 carbon frames, and 3 steel frames since '08 when I got back into mtbing. All replaced under warranty. The aluminum and carbon frames were just visible cracks. One of the steel frames was the most catastrophic failure and lucky for me, I heard it on a climb and stopped to inspect before a rocky Wissahickon descent.
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Sorry @JDurk but I’m never going to lend you one of my bikes or @liong71er for that matter😂🤘
 
JDurk said:
Clydesdale problems. These were/are all used as XC bikes. But I've lost a bit of weight, if you're not following the Biggest Loser thread. So maybe their service lives will be extended a little bit.
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I’ll have to go check out that thread. Nice to know one was started. So many great threads on this site that it’s hard to keep track.
 
Dave Taylor said:
Right chainstay near dropout. 95% of people don't weld titanium property because it's a pita .
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That’s where my Seven HT cracked after 4 years. That was 4 1/2 years ago and it’s been fine.
My previous Titus ti ht cracked at the head tube-down tube junction.
 
Think I’ll page @Reggie as he rides mostly technical trails and is on a titanium single speed. Curious how his experience has been as he seems to enjoy his bike.
 
Victor I said:
Think I’ll page @Reggie as he rides mostly technical trails and is on a titanium single speed. Curious how his experience has been as he seems to enjoy his bike.
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Oh, you didn't hear, he broke his Ti frame!!! JK

Don't worry about the haters, ride enjoy and replace when it fails because, in the end, everything fails.
 
Victor I said:
Think I’ll page @Reggie as he rides mostly technical trails and is on a titanium single speed. Curious how his experience has been as he seems to enjoy his bike.
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Has he got one then, last time I checked he was on the market for an El Mariachi, but he may have been steered toward newer pastures...sorry, while I am in awe of the titanium goodness it's not for me, I'm firmly in steel territory, even though I'm now double dipping in modern-ish geometry...
 
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