Tariffs...what to make of them.

UtahJoe said:
What's funny with usaid, prior to Elon getting involved... Trump praised it... Certainly did nothing to dismantle it during his first term... Last year rubio was begging Biden for more funding.... And why is that? Bc while yes there is PEPFAR which gwb started and has saved something like 20million Africans.... There is also the side of usaid nobody likes to talk about.... The side that keeps the world's resources from being bought up by formally Russia, now China... The nicer way that our empire stays our empire... Helping populations, rather than just taking their resources. I'm not necessarily a fan of this, but I'd rather us do it than China just taking it... Which they will

I know two people who have gotten letters this week asking them to take this deal and resign... Both of them work in veterans hospitals.... Which, wow... They were such wonderful places to begin with... So nice that we will be gutting the staff there too
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Easy killer.

Trump praised what?

What did he not dismantle?

Rubio begged for more funding for what?

Trying to follow you but it is not easy.
 
Johnny Utah said:
Are you ready to address the short comings of Federal Authorities that day? Are you also willing to address unrest across the country associated with George Floyd as well as unrest in Portland Oregon? What about the handful of social groups that took over State legislature without repercussion during the previous administration?

People died during those events as well - yet they are ignored.

Did you ignore them my Fat Bike friend!

BTW - hope we can get some miles in this year, hoping all is well with your buddy!
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Same story from every tRUMP fan---what about, what about, what about? Must be tough trying to defend the indefensible.
 
Johnny Utah said:
No I didn’t say that. For some reason the left does not talk about the businesses, lives and areas destroyed during those protests - plus the lives lost.

We also do not talk about the multiple sit ins and take overs of government offices during the Biden administration.

January 6th keeps coming up.
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The planners of the George Floyd riots got over 5 years in prison... Along with hundreds of others... Meantime, the guy who incited the j6 riot got to president again.... Then set free every asshole that was convicted... Im sorry but that's a pretty big difference
 
olegbabich said:
Lots of "What about" going on around here.
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It’s not like anyone here has real info, if they had it they can’t share it.

Just regurgitating news they saw.

Seems to lean one way around here.

Last I looked we just had an election with certified results, not sure everyone received that message.

There are users here on the other side
thegock said:
Same story from every tRUMP fan---what about, what about, what about? Must be tough trying to defend the indefensible.
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Can you let me in on the story, seems to be the same story for every anti trumper?

For someone that analyzed numbers for a living you seem to be speaking in compiled statements yet you require an audit from me.
 
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UtahJoe said:
The planners of the George Floyd riots got over 5 years in prison... Along with hundreds of others... Meantime, the guy who incited the j6 riot got to president again.... Then set free every asshole that was convicted... Im sorry but that's a pretty big difference
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What about all of the businesses interrupted:destroyed during that time. CHOP?

Over 19 people perished by 6/8/2020 during the George Floyd protest yet those lives seem to be forgotten vs. the five during January 6th of which are as follows:
- one shot by Capital Police
- One drug overdose
- Three of natural causes

Nancy Pelosi “thanked” George Floyd for sacrificing himself.
 
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UtahJoe said:
The planners of the George Floyd riots got over 5 years in prison... Along with hundreds of others... Meantime, the guy who incited the j6 riot got to president again.... Then set free every asshole that was convicted... Im sorry but that's a pretty big difference
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What about the politicians that encouraged the George Floyd Riots - do you feel we should prosecute them?

You must be just as outraged vs the January 6th riots. I can’t find anything on here where you discuss the George Floyd riots though.
 
Johnny Utah said:
What about the politicians that encouraged the George Floyd Riots - do you feel we should prosecute them?

You must be just as outraged vs the January 6th riots. I can’t find anything on here where you discuss the George Floyd riots though.
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More whataboutism. But u still haven't defended the indefensible.

I will keep you posted on the recidivists, doe.

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adogg said:
Why was Rick banned from this forum?
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I believe the term was “discouraged” - essentially the mods here made it that he could type one letter every ten minutes. He was banned but in a way where they could get away without saying they “banned” him and that he could still post here, and say he just chose not to. It would take him a whole day to type one sentence on this site because of the parameters the mods had his IP address working in. They delivered him a death sentence. He is doing well, I talk to him here and there.

I was the recipient of this treatment for a month or so as well. Very inclusive from the mods for sure. Fall in line or fall out more like it.

From my observation a lot of it was politics, Rick was conservative and the powers to be here not so much. If Rick posted it was out of line, if like rhetoric hit him it was fair.
 
Johnny Utah said:
This goes both ways - are you ready to discuss the Biden pardons as well as Hunter?

I would like you to let me know which Part of the Trump verdict you do not agree with, then I will address.
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I’m not asking about the pardons. Trump was convicted of felonies. Several of them was Hunter Biden convicted.? do I think he did fucked up shit and there’s a criminal but was he convicted?
 
Johnny Utah said:
No I didn’t say that. For some reason the left does not talk about the businesses, lives and areas destroyed during those protests - plus the lives lost.

We also do not talk about the multiple sit ins and take overs of government offices during the Biden administration.

January 6th keeps coming up.
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Maybe because it was extremely violent. Were the sit ins violent?
 
Johnny Utah said:
I believe the term was “discouraged” - essentially the mods here made it that he could type one letter every ten minutes. He was banned but in a way where they could get away without saying they “banned” him and that he could still post here, and say he just chose not to. It would take him a whole day to type one sentence on this site because of the parameters the mods had his IP address working in. They delivered him a death sentence. He is doing well, I talk to him here and there.

I was the recipient of this treatment for a month or so as well. Very inclusive from the mods for sure. Fall in line or fall out more like it.

From my observation a lot of it was politics, Rick was conservative and the powers to be here not so much. If Rick posted it was out of line, if like rhetoric hit him it was fair.
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I sort of got that feeling when the 4th post in this thread from @Norm read "DJT and Heil Elon are scum-sucking morons, no doubt"
 
Dave Taylor said:
I’m not asking about the pardons. Trump was convicted of felonies. Several of them was Hunter Biden convicted.? do I think he did fucked up shit and there’s a criminal but was he convicted?
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I asked you to tell me which of Trumps convictions bothered you and what about them you found criminal - then I would discuss.

Surely you must be upset with Biden for passing the Presidency to a known convict and felon. Kamala must be guilty as well for certifying a Felon as a President.

What should we do about Biden and Harris for their part in this?
 
UtahJoe said:
What's funny with usaid, prior to Elon getting involved... Trump praised it... Certainly did nothing to dismantle it during his first term... Last year rubio was begging Biden for more funding.... And why is that? Bc while yes there is PEPFAR which gwb started and has saved something like 20million Africans.... There is also the side of usaid nobody likes to talk about.... The side that keeps the world's resources from being bought up by formally Russia, now China... The nicer way that our empire stays our empire... Helping populations, rather than just taking their resources. I'm not necessarily a fan of this, but I'd rather us do it than China just taking it... Which they will

I know two people who have gotten letters this week asking them to take this deal and resign... Both of them work in veterans hospitals.... Which, wow... They were such wonderful places to begin with... So nice that we will be gutting the staff there too
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Same, my friend’s brother who is a pathologist and one of the VA hospitals around DC he stayed working there longer than he should’ve because they were short on those types of doctors. He finally had to retire after the stress got to him. He talked to a bunch of his coworkers last week And they were all considering taking the offer and going to private practices. This is what Trump really wants.
 
Dave Taylor said:
I’m not asking about the pardons. Trump was convicted of felonies. Several of them was Hunter Biden convicted.? do I think he did fucked up shit and there’s a criminal but was he convicted?
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Hunter Biden plead guilty to them. So yes.

Biden pardoned him after he went on record saying, several times, that he would not Pardon Hunter.

I know, you must be outraged.
 
Johnny Utah said:
I concur with you 100% - the over reach and extremes are insane. In retrospect, that’s some of my point here. I do not want it to continue on either side.

There seems to be a population on this site that will beat the turd out of the Trump fans - if the Trump fans get traction they are silenced. Then we are told they are silenced in “unity” or they are participating in “hate speech”. Seems to be a re-occurring theme in this country. Well, look at the election results.

If you want to tell me Trump is extreme and out of control - acknowledge some of the short comings of the previous administration. They were not angels by any means.
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I think the Biden administration decided that their best route to re-election was to court progressives and just do the opposite of what Trump had wanted. I doing so they thought that they would get the young voters to turn out and the never-Trumpers. Dead wrong, post-Covid stimulus resulted (globally) in inflation, that can be enough to lose right there. Then the day in and day out loose border/refugee story right up to the primaries was a fatal mistake even without inflation.

That was more than enough to get republicans back in the white house/congress despite having one of the most reprehensible humans at the helm. ( Now with a collection of unsavory characters as minions. )

Let’s see how the next 3.5 years unfolds I’m sure the Dems are taking notes on what the ‘new normal’ is and will do much of the same if and when their time comes.

My only personal breaking point would be if there is a Sovereign Wealth Crypto Fund created pumping up crypto shit while at the same time we are paying 10% of our taxes to pay interest on our massive debt…🥴
 
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