home engery monitors

Magic said:
Right? My delivery fees for gas and electric usually end up higher than usage. I didn’t see no damn electricity delivery truck man outside. Da fuck?

Mine also doubled in the last two bills for some reason and couldn’t figure it out. Assumed rates went up a lot, nothing else changed. Also everything natural gas.
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all the fires cause by trees hitting the lines have caused new prevention laws.
(or requirements to be insured)
that all goes into delivery.

then demand is also going up - so that economics thing.
 
as opposed to my e-bill, my gas bill hit a high at $300 last month.
we keep the house set at 68 and warm the living room with the TV......
i'm usually around $250 in the middle of winter.
also had some company, so kept it warmer.
 
Cole said:
Right, so not worth the conversion... We use the wood stove a lot, but since putting on the addition it doesn't heat the whole house. So we generally let it die down at night...
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You're the perfect candidate for geothermal. The heat pump with warmer underground air is why people spend money to drill. Do you know if you property has significant bedrock?
 
SmooveP said:
Propane is expensive right now. Paid almost $700 to heat my house last month. My electric bill was under $100, though.
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(Sorry to derail, I'm interested in the panel monitoring stuff too but...)

Out of curiosity, what are you paying per gallon? I've had all kinds of fun arguments with my supplier about their pricing and what's shown on NYSERDA etc.
 
qclabrat said:
You're the perfect candidate for geothermal. The heat pump with warmer underground air is why people spend money to drill. Do you know if you property has significant bedrock?
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I don't think so, but never got further down than this, and maybe the septic5d489f02-b9a8-4273-afab-c4650fc6509e-1_all_3549.jpg
 
shrpshtr325 said:
in the summer its the a/c for sure, but this time of year i cant figure it out, which is whats getting at me, we are gas heat (steam so not even a blower fan for that) and gas for hot water, gas dryer, gas range. Novembers bill was almost $200 (with no known big loads running, and not even any decorations up to pull from it)
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Was that an estimate vs actual reading? Years ago in Edison, we'd get a $500 bill one month then $20 the next due to estimated usage
 
Patrick said:
Yeah, that's the problem.....
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Yea thanks Murphy 🙄
Patrick said:
all the fires cause by trees hitting the lines have caused new prevention laws.
(or requirements to be insured)
that all goes into delivery.

then demand is also going up - so that economics thing.
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Delivery only shows .06xxx so yea..... They need to build more generation and not limit options but let's not get all political about this since I can already see it going that way.

This is about figuring out what's using it all. Bill shows 653kwh for Nov. Gotta figure out what's eating since that seem excessive in my mind
 
Does the heat pump give you energy usage info on it's display if you have one?

Maybe the unit is set up to go to resistive heat under a certain temperature when the heat pump isn't efficient. That temperature setting can possibly be changed.
 
Santapez said:
Does the heat pump give you energy usage info on it's display if you have one?

Maybe the unit is set up to go to resistive heat under a certain temperature when the heat pump isn't efficient. That temperature setting can possibly be changed.
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No, and I don't think they ever hooked up the aux coil. It's in there, just needs to be connected
 
shrpshtr325 said:
Anyone have one? was it worth it? our electric bill is getting out of hand and im having trouble figuring out whats the cause (assuming its something we are doing in addition to the recent insane rate hikes). Going to start paying attention to the actual usage on the bill too, but figured something like sense or emporia might be helpful in identifying specific usage patterns. (sense seems easier to install since its just the two clamps for the feed from the street).
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Does it make sense to look at the incoming feed vs actual circuits?

Incoming feed will tell you total usage and times it goes up or down but aren't you interested in looking at individual circuits?

Do they offer additional clamps and inputs so you can move it around different circuits, like the heating system, suspect outlets. oven, etc?
 
Santapez said:
Does it make sense to look at the incoming feed vs actual circuits?

Incoming feed will tell you total usage and times it goes up or down but aren't you interested in looking at individual circuits?

Do they offer additional clamps and inputs so you can move it around different circuits, like the heating system, suspect outlets. oven, etc?
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Yes they offer circuit level monitoring. Sense claims to be able to determine loads without the circuit level monitoring (just two clamps on the input legs from the street)which is pretty interesting if it works.
 
My bill is very high as well. i have most of the things mentioned (pool, 3 furnaces/ac etc), but my biggest burner is no one in my family understands the concepts of turning lights off when you leave a room (or shutting drawers/cabinets/doors but that is likely another thread). at night my house looks like the north star.
 
Circuit monitoring seems sketchy. I would think you could ID your bigger draws without spending money to do so. You don’t really think you have a hidden well pump running 24/7, do you?
 
mntal said:
My bill is very high as well. i have most of the things mentioned (pool, 3 furnaces/ac etc), but my biggest burner is no one in my family understands the concepts of turning lights off when you leave a room (or shutting drawers/cabinets/doors but that is likely another thread). at night my house looks like the north star.
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I can't see led lights being left on being the too much of the culprit. I know it doesn't help. I can't have too much light.
 
Cole said:
I can't see led lights being left on being the too much of the culprit. I know it doesn't help. I can't have too much light.
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Can leave them on 24/7/365 and it wouldn't be noticable compared to pool pumps, furnace fans, A/C etc.

100W equivalent LED bulbs use around 13W.

10 of them would maybe draw 1A. 100 of them would draw less power than a space heater.
 
SmooveP said:
$3.71 this last bill.
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Do you guys own your own tank? We had prices like that but then we bought our own 500 gallon tank to replace the one that was installed by Suburban before we owned our house. Cost $4500 but now we're only paying $2.08. The difference paid for the install after 4 years. Used Gas Tech from Pennsylvania
 
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