Going Long and Hard.

[Dusty the Whale]

missed a few of your posts there...Racing for Seven will be cool as shit.

 

[walter]

.Racing for Seven will be cool as shit.

This is good stuff. Really.

 

[pooriggy]

if they somehow manage to get the suicide girls to sponsor this team as well i'd say you really stepped in shit.

 

[Steve Vai]

Thanks, I'm of course stoked and OMG, love Suicide Girls 😀

Their logo would look sick on a black jersey.

Yeah so, I don't think that's gonna happen, but some very nice person got a membership as a gift. That could have something to do with my post count being so low :hmmm:

Wednesday.

Commute through the ghetto this morning. Technically today was a recovery day but Mr. Kevin is nipping at my heels in the winter comp. I was also running a little late so I had to boogie a bit. Without realizing it I was hovering around that 18.5 mph mark so said F it and threw in the extra effort to hit the speed bonus.

Ride home was uneventful. Ended up staying a bit late after work. Put some 25c GatorSkins on Rusty. I'm not the biggest GatorSkin fan but in this case I couldn't resist the brown sidewall...😀

Bike Porn.

I seriously don't know how Nuggles pulls this shit off. Paul himself sent him a brand new, never touched rear derailleur. WTF!!? And I can't find a purple Chris King headset?

In other bike relate news. Thank god I stripped the Resolute down to build up Rusty. The BB and head tube were starting to rust pretty good. Bottom bracket especially. Spent some time using various solvents and a wire brush to bring it back clean. During our class Steve was telling us that Frame Saver isn't good to use inside steel frames. We spent about an hour talking about what bad things it does. We also spent a good amount of time talking about the downside of sealed tubes. The Seven is quasi sealed. It's open at the headtube but not at the BB. And the BB has no weep hole. Before I rebuild it I'm gonna drill the BB. Even with a King installed water works it's way in there and then it just sits without a weep hole. So this frame and Rusty were filled with T-9, rotated all around until it dripped out of everywhere. Steve swears by that method so I'll try it. I know T-9 works to stop the ferrules from rusting into the stops so I don't see why it wouldn't work...

-Jim.

 

[gtluke]

Bike porn, nsfw
http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsWithBikes

 

[stb222]

In other bike relate news. Thank god I stripped the Resolute down to build up Rusty. The BB and head tube were starting to rust pretty good. Bottom bracket especially. Spent some time using various solvents and a wire brush to bring it back clean. During our class Steve was telling us that Frame Saver isn't good to use inside steel frames. We spent about an hour talking about what bad things it does. We also spent a good amount of time talking about the downside of sealed tubes. The Seven is quasi sealed. It's open at the headtube but not at the BB. And the BB has no weep hole. Before I rebuild it I'm gonna drill the BB. Even with a King installed water works it's way in there and then it just sits without a weep hole. So this frame and Rusty were filled with T-9, rotated all around until it dripped out of everywhere. Steve swears by that method so I'll try it. I know T-9 works to stop the ferrules from rusting into the stops so I don't see why it wouldn't work...

-Jim.

Interesting stuff with the frame saver. I didnt use it on the steel frame I just built up and now I am glad I didn't. After the winter and days like these, I will have to strip it back down and do the t9 thing.

 

[TedH]

Interesting stuff with the frame saver. I didnt use it on the steel frame I just built up and now I am glad I didn't. After the winter and days like these, I will have to strip it back down and do the t9 thing.

Ditto. Need to check on my IF BB, which I drilled, but last look, last year it was good without rust saver.

 

[Steve Vai]

Yeah, Frame Saver. The biggest thing I picked up about it was pretty simple when you think about it. It hardens after about a year. Once it hardens water can easily slip under it and just sit in the tube. Even if you re-do it the new stuff isn't gonna get back into all the crannies. T-9 doesn't dry up, it's always wet and doesn't allow the water to sit anywhere. Spraying new T-9 in the frame every once in while will clean out whatever is starting to form in there.

Just in the week I've had my Seven sitting here soaking the tubes have come back to almost new. I literally had to wire brush the frame saver out of the BB and head tube. I filled the DT and TT with WD40 to eat at the frame saver. I can't tell if it worked or not. There were some chunks of stuff that came out but lord knows what it was...

My Chris King BB has holes in the threads from the frame saver eating at it. If you have a steel bike it wouldn't hurt to take a peek.

-Jim.

 

[stb222]

My Chris King BB has holes in the threads from the frame saver eating at it. If you have a steel bike it wouldn't hurt to take a peek.

-Jim.

I have a CK bb in my EWR and I frame saver'ed that frame, now me curious.

 

[Steve Vai]

Peep it...

The other side is worse but I didn't feel like taking it out to take a pic of it. Hole. When I put it back in I used teflon tape just to help it along a bit. We'll see how the long-term looks...

Thursday.

Rain. Plan was to do 3 hours before work with 60 minutes at Sweet Spot. I went with the plan.

Must've rained like mad at some point in the morning or last night because the creek by Chimney Rock was flowing all fast and silly. It wasn't cold enough to use rain gear or gloves today.

Hit the interval at Long Road and settled in. The last 15 minutes of this block hits the rollers on River Road and usually is over by the 2rd sprint point of the Tuesday A Ride. I needed to put in a bigger effort before then to make sure the speed was up as the rollers will claim what's left in my legs more times than not. With like 7 minutes to go I run into this...

Flooded. Blah. Tip toe through that and then I hafta drill it to get my speed average back up. That effort did me in. I goofed off for the rest of the ride and ended up at work late. I showed the head cheese pictures of the flooding and it was all good 😀

Ride home was rainy and dark, but very warm. That is all.

-Jim.

 

[TedH]

Peep it...

The other side is worse but I didn't feel like taking it out to take a pic of it. Hole. When I put it back in I used teflon tape just to help it along a bit. We'll see how the long-term looks...

-Jim.

I'd be curious to know what ck says to that and how to approach given the Cielo line now. That's f'd up.

 

[Steve Vai]

The unfortunate thing about that is it's very hard to get any straight answers in this industry. With the West Coast companies it may take a few calls before you get the one person in the company that isn't high and coherent enough to talk. I will call today. Possibly several times 😀

-Jim.

 

[Jeremy]

the one person in the company that isn't high and coherent enough to talk. I

-Jim.

You say that like its a bad thing

 

[THATmanMANNY]

i framesaved the two steel bikes I got already.

granted I don't ride in the rain, I think I'll be okay

But I feel skeptical about that framesaver claim. I would have to see a framesaved frame cut up to believe

I mean that framesave stuff it icky and you apply a couple coats of it

 

[Chris(NJ)]

dude, congrats on riding for seven ... very cool

 

[Steve Vai]

But I feel skeptical about that framesaver claim.

If I didn't spend the past week soaking and wire brushing my Seven I wouldn't have believed it either. One of the old Pete's here is anti-frame-saver and I always just thought he was crazy, which he is, be it's unrelated. In any event, if you only ride when it's 70 and sunny you'll be fine even if you fill your frame with piss. If you ride in the stuff I ride in you can destroy a bottom bracket in one ride 😉

-Jim.

 

[Steve Vai]

dude, congrats on riding for seven ... very cool

Thanks a bunch. Super stoked 😀

-Jim.

 

[stb222]

i framesaved the two steel bikes I got already.

granted I don't ride in the rain, I think I'll be okay

But I feel skeptical about that framesaver claim. I would have to see a framesaved frame cut up to believe

I mean that framesave stuff it icky and you apply a couple coats of it

Manny, don't forget that condensation can form inside the tubes from changes in temperatures and just generally humidity, the mositure just doesn't have to be from an outside source. It would take years and years, but it is still an issue. I will likely my CK BB out this weekend and see whats what. I am scared to see what is in there considering I never took the bb out after the six pack.

 

[pooriggy]

if you don't go with that truecoat you could get oxidation.

 

[Steve Vai]

I'll knock $100 off.