Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
I'd do it, but my bill to the town would have a lot of zeros. Just like when we do Insurance Quotes for crashed bikes.
E-bikes are a thing
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I'd do it, but my bill to the town would have a lot of zeros. Just like when we do Insurance Quotes for crashed bikes.
N.J. kid is too young to drive, but already lost their driver’s license
The juvenile was criminally charged in three separate incidents involving a motorized bike, police said.
www.nj.com
I don't see how me riding a Class 1 e-bike in Eco mode with a group of regular bikers should be illegal. Sigh
"In following up with Manasquan Captain Nick Norcia, “The bike in question was modified to allow it to get up to 80 MPH, that being one of the reasons we had a challenge with catching the person."
Not Just Toys: Modified E-Bikes Can Hit 80 MPH — And Manasquan Is Cracking DownN.J. kid is too young to drive, but already lost their driver’s license
The juvenile was criminally charged in three separate incidents involving a motorized bike, police said.
Nice. I don’t pay so I couldn’t read much more than the first few sentences. 80MPH? Kid is lucky he is still breathing.
Yup, all classes of e BIKES are not allowed on any single track trails in NYS.
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
I assume no one follows that. I know at least 100 people that have ridden e bikes there, excluding the 6 I saw Friday 😂
True, I stopped riding there when the signs went up. I have stopped riding in NYS parks , they don’t want me there, screw them.
Ian F
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Agree to a certain extent. If an area is somewhat dependent on out-of-state tourism, it seems counterproductive to actively exclude potential customers that almost by definition are more likely to spend money in your town.
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
If there isn’t a Brewery across the street, mountain bikers ain’t spending money in town anyway.
NYS parks are heavily influenced by the hikers. I would not be shocked one bit if mountain bikes were removed from all trail access . I have a buddy that is involved with Blue mountain and there are a bunch of hikers pushing to get mountain bikes off the trails even though it was mountain bikers that cut the trails in the first place.
Ian F
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Is that experience or just "jaded bike shop guy"?
In my own experience with my friends when we do mtn biking trips, we spend a fair amount of money between lodging, food, occasional parts purchases from the LBS and yes - beer.
Example - my friends and I went to White Clay in DE over the weekend. Just a day trip, so no lodging, but the 6 of us did go to a local pizza place after the ride for lunch. Is it a huge amount of money, even between the 6 of us? No, but it's still activity. In the same shopping center is a bike shop. I need new brake pads for the Spot. M9100 XTR 2-piston calipers. Rather than rolling the dice on me ordering the correct pads online, I figured I'd go there and buy sets if they have them since I had the bike with me to check. Unfortunately, they didn't but I did end up buying a bottle of chain lube and a couple of Clif Blocks. There's also a wine store in the shopping center where I bought a couple of bottles. In the end, I spent over $100 during my visit.
Did any of my friends spend a similar amount? No - they just bought lunch. But even if a 10% of visitors spend a similar amount that can represent an impact.
I can tell you from speaking to the biggest bike shop in my town that the lack of E-Bikes on the trails has hurt their business. Their rental business has gone down as Florida people now refuse to ride regular bikes anywhere with hills. Tons of people just don't come to this area due to only being able to ride E-Bikes at the bike parks. Doesn't mean there isn't a ton of visitors though.
Tourism is a huge amount of $$ here but banning E-Bikes is for specific reasons. Pisgah it's mostly due to SAR issues primarily but also keeping motorized vehicles off the trails. Dupont just can't handle any more users as it's bonkers packed during busy times so they're working to exclude new user groups. The issues/concerns of fast E-Bikes is the reason the current user groups don't want them.
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
Been riding and doing this for over 30 years and talk to hundreds of people a year, so it's little more than just an opinion.
Ian F
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As have I. Granted, I don't know if I would consider Summit a tourist destination, mtn biking or not. I've been there numerous times for work (currently BMS sites and various past-owners) and for one or two of the car shows with my ex-.
Or maybe the people you talk to are just stingy... hell, when we were at Davis earlier this year, we dropped over a grand at a tequila bar...
For any spot that has mountain biking, there's gotta be an affect even if it's not noticeable.
I just think of something as simple as how much more business the coffee shop in High Bridge gets just because of mountain bikers. I'd hit up a convenience store just to get a Gatorade before a ride at The Tourne when I forgot a drink. Post ride Allaire lunches at the general store, etc.
Sterling doesn't exactly have a ton of spots around it, so those few restaurants likely have a couple tables a weekend from mountain bikers. It's not going to let them sell the place to private investors and retire early, but it's something.
I can tell you those locals in Davis aren't dropping a grand at a tequila bar.
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
Brewery.
Johnny Utah
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I was passed by a kid on the Manasquan bike path in March of this year- let me preface that I have crewed for Ultra4 cars that do well over 80mph in the desert as well as ride moto on the weekends
This kid passed me within a few inches on the non-motorized bike path at what I assume was in excess of 60mph. I was startled.
Other people were around as well as walking with strollers. That level of speed on that path, where most people do not maintain a straight line was incredibly dangerous.
Ian F
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That is crazy... I don't like riding a road bike on those paths at less than 20 MPH. I feel safer riding with cars.