Biggest loser

you and a bunch of others here are now dealing with the "maintaining" part which to me is harder than the progression of losing.

I have done the lose-to-maintain thing a few times now, like 6 or more, and I agree it can be harder. But it's only harder in that we see "maintaining" as "I can eat a bit more than when I was not eating anything."

When you are losing, you can be strict as you know there is that end goal. No, I am not going to have a second plate at dinner. I need to hit 190. Well, when you hit 190 you then have your second plate, and then 190 starts to fade in the rearview mirror.

I am trying to introspect a bit in this iteration and see what works and what doesn't. What I am finding is that it's still helpful to have some days where you act as if you are losing, to be as strict as possible that day, then other days you can slide a bit more. If you add a few extra calories every day across all meals, it adds up, as we all know.

There is also something to be said about not starving yourself. In the past I have found that once I hit that finish line, I just want more. So I cut calories even more and eventually, my body starts to fight back, and it is a mental chore. I have started to come around on the eat-to-lose mentality to a point. What I mean by this is that you can't constantly lower your calorie intake forever. It's a limit approaching 0 that nobody can physically nor mentally maintain.

That said, even at this old age I am still figuring shit out. So maybe I'm still doing it all wrong. Just less wrong than the last time? IDK.
 
The drinking dreams get to me. I’ll wake up feeling so guilty like it actually happened. Total mind fuck.

On topic with this thread - I setup the trainer today and ordered a couple things for the mtb. I’ve been dealing with some mental health issues which have lead to physical issues and a lot of weight gain over the past year.

I have addresses the mental health issues and have been putting in a lot of work there. I’m feeling amazing recently and excited to start the physical side of this.

Current weight: 175
Goal: 145-150 range

What it looks like to cram several hobbies into a tight corner (drums are also extremely physical since I mostly play metal…getting back into regular practice routine there as well):

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Trainer def safer than the trails... 😛

Good to hear things are on the upswing...
 
I have done the lose-to-maintain thing a few times now, like 6 or more, and I agree it can be harder. But it's only harder in that we see "maintaining" as "I can eat a bit more than when I was not eating anything."

When you are losing, you can be strict as you know there is that end goal. No, I am not going to have a second plate at dinner. I need to hit 190. Well, when you hit 190 you then have your second plate, and then 190 starts to fade in the rearview mirror.

I am trying to introspect a bit in this iteration and see what works and what doesn't. What I am finding is that it's still helpful to have some days where you act as if you are losing, to be as strict as possible that day, then other days you can slide a bit more. If you add a few extra calories every day across all meals, it adds up, as we all know.

There is also something to be said about not starving yourself. In the past I have found that once I hit that finish line, I just want more. So I cut calories even more and eventually, my body starts to fight back, and it is a mental chore. I have started to come around on the eat-to-lose mentality to a point. What I mean by this is that you can't constantly lower your calorie intake forever. It's a limit approaching 0 that nobody can physically nor mentally maintain.

That said, even at this old age I am still figuring shit out. So maybe I'm still doing it all wrong. Just less wrong than the last time? IDK.
I think I mentioned this a while back, the feeling of being a fat guy in a skinny man's body somehow doesn't fade completely it sits around in the subconscious and messes with your brain at the slightest change. Im dealing with a little of this now that I am 3 months into my new job, ive seen a few lbs creep back since my riding miles is about 50-75 miles less per week.

you and a bunch of others here are now dealing with the "maintaining" part which to me is harder than the progression of losing. I remember one of the fitness/gym instructors at my old work gym who followed my progression used to tell me "maintaining aint gaining" and its also winning. The maintaining thing to me is about 95% mental and 5% physical.
Maintaining is for sure much harder. Moderation is the key and last week, from Wed to Sun, I pretty much kicked moderation to the curb, and the scale showed it yesterday. I know what I have to do and have the knowledge and discipline from the program I'm following to get back on track.

After weighing in, as soon as I woke up yesterday, at a weight I haven't seen in some time, got back on the exercise, food and hydration of the plan. Stepped on the scale this morning and was 6lbs lighter, 184.8 to 178.8. Scale is in the same spot and always step on/off the scale to get 3 matching values. Placed a 25lb dumbbell on the scale which read 25.2, so close enough. I'll take it and will wait until Saturday morning to weigh myself again.
 
Maintaining is for sure much harder. Moderation is the key and last week, from Wed to Sun, I pretty much kicked moderation to the curb, and the scale showed it yesterday. I know what I have to do and have the knowledge and discipline from the program I'm following to get back on track.

After weighing in, as soon as I woke up yesterday, at a weight I haven't seen in some time, got back on the exercise, food and hydration of the plan. Stepped on the scale this morning and was 6lbs lighter, 184.8 to 178.8. Scale is in the same spot and always step on/off the scale to get 3 matching values. Placed a 25lb dumbbell on the scale which read 25.2, so close enough. I'll take it and will wait until Saturday morning to weigh myself again.

Same as last time - you were full of food, and holding some extra water.
Couple trips to the bathroom, and some sweat, and right back down.
Could you put on an actual 2lbs in 5 days? Maybe? I'm sure you'll shed it if ya did.

Agree that it does mess with ya - but be assured your body will not immediately absorb that much food and turn it into fat storage.

Although winter is coming, so the forage is on!
Maybe that is why it seems easier to lose weight in the cold months? That would be the lean eating times.
years of genetic conditioning?
 
For me the equation is simple. I eat pretty well most of the time. When I want to drop weight I eat well all of the time. No treats, excess, beer, etc… AND I calorie count. When I’m not calorie counting it’s easy for those treats to come back and over indulge. I’m still really happy with my fitness and it’s normal to carry a few more pounds through winter. I’ll be happy to try and drop 10 as opposed to dropping 40 next spring.
 
Same as last time - you were full of food, and holding some extra water.
Couple trips to the bathroom, and some sweat, and right back down.
Could you put on an actual 2lbs in 5 days? Maybe? I'm sure you'll shed it if ya did.

Agree that it does mess with ya - but be assured your body will not immediately absorb that much food and turn it into fat storage.

Although winter is coming, so the forage is on!
Maybe that is why it seems easier to lose weight in the cold months? That would be the lean eating times.
years of genetic conditioning?
Considering I went up 10lbs in 9 days, then down 6lbs in 1 day, anything is possible.

Started last Wednesday evening, the following items have not been consumed other than during a cheat meal or in moderation. All were on the table: Beer, Irish whisky, ice cream, cake, cookies, FF, lobster roll, hamburgers, cheese plate, potatoes, toast, muffins, cinnamon roll, pork sausage, tomatoes. So mostly sugar and carbs.

Then there was the 5k on Friday night, so maybe some inflammation? Did a lot of walking during the whole weekend, from coffee shop, to bakery, to the bar, to the restaurant.
 
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The drinking dreams get to me. I’ll wake up feeling so guilty like it actually happened. Total mind fuck.

On topic with this thread - I setup the trainer today and ordered a couple things for the mtb. I’ve been dealing with some mental health issues which have lead to physical issues and a lot of weight gain over the past year.

I have addresses the mental health issues and have been putting in a lot of work there. I’m feeling amazing recently and excited to start the physical side of this.

Current weight: 175
Goal: 145-150 range

What it looks like to cram several hobbies into a tight corner (drums are also extremely physical since I mostly play metal…getting back into regular practice routine there as well):

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Good on you for getting things set up for success. Any time I think I want to do an indoor training session, having everything ready to go makes it less likely i will come up with an excuse not to.

get 'er done!
 
Good on you for getting things set up for success. Any time I think I want to do an indoor training session, having everything ready to go makes it less likely i will come up with an excuse not to.

get 'er done!
I despise the hamster wheel but it’s great when coming back from some off time. Last time I used it was after a really bad tear in my calf muscle that took me out for a long time. At least if I get into it and realize it’s a bad idea I’m not in the middle of the woods after loading all my shit and driving thirty min away…
 
After that initial drop at the start of this year I basically kept relatively consistent. The two blips really resulting from getting sick (COVID/Flu in March, seasonal cold last month). I'm on pace for 300+ hours on the bike and 2500+ miles so that certainly helped. Started ramping up my "offseason" weight lifting routine 2 weeks ago as well

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Well I gues its time to do a reverse biggest loser for me hahah started a 300 calorie surplus 5 month lean bulk as of 3 days ago. Hopefully I can put on even more muscle to fill in the loose skin a. Bit plus add some needed fat back on in the process.
 
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Well I gues its time to do a reverse biggest loser for me hahah started a 300 calorie surplus 5 month lean bulk as of 3 days ago. Hopefully I can put on even more muscle to fill in the loose skin a. Bit plus add some needed fat back on in the process.

Def adding muscle weight can't hurt.
If you aren't fatigued, or experiencing any weird physical symptoms (weakness or heart palpitations) , don't worry about the fat percentage.

You look better than you think.

Read that again, cause like Ian said, your image of yourself is skewed by the past.

If you really want to know percentage, schedule an appt with someone with the body sensing scale. Has hand and feet sensors to measure impedance. They can tell body make up by body part.

Keep with your plan tho, but focus on the muscle.part.
 
Def adding muscle weight can't hurt.
If you aren't fatigued, or experiencing any weird physical symptoms (weakness or heart palpitations) , don't worry about the fat percentage.

You look better than you think.

Read that again, cause like Ian said, your image of yourself is skewed by the past.

If you really want to know percentage, schedule an appt with someone with the body sensing scale. Has hand and feet sensors to measure impedance. They can tell body make up by body part.

Keep with your plan tho, but focus on the muscle.part.
I was deffinitly having alot of the negative side effects of low body fat but I was in denial because all I've been pushing for was a fully defined 6 pack and unfortunately I kept pushing thinking it was fat left but really all that was left covering the bottom part was a bunch of loose skin. Some in my chest too but I have packed on a ton of muscle in the chest and it is really filling that out already unless I flex my chest really hard then you can see loose skin under but still not bad Even the stomach looks fine when I'm standing up but if I sit or bend over it all just flops out and down very sad but ohhh well I achieved amazing things this year put on alot of muscle gained a ton of strength and dropped 52 pounds.
 
I was deffinitly having alot of the negative side effects of low body fat but I was in denial because all I've been pushing for was a fully defined 6 pack and unfortunately I kept pushing thinking it was fat left but really all that was left covering the bottom part was a bunch of loose skin. Some in my chest too but I have packed on a ton of muscle in the chest and it is really filling that out already unless I flex my chest really hard then you can see loose skin under but still not bad Even the stomach looks fine when I'm standing up but if I sit or bend over it all just flops out and down very sad but ohhh well I achieved amazing things this year put on alot of muscle gained a ton of strength and dropped 52 pounds.
Flabby skin of the belly, love handles and chest here. Some may be a bit o'fat. But, I was chubby for so long, don't think it will shrink enough without some type of plastic surgery. The E2M coaches recommend doing running sprints and twisting core exercises.
 
Flabby skin of the belly, love handles and chest here. Some may be a bit o'fat. But, I was chubby for so long, don't think it will shrink enough without some type of plastic surgery. The E2M coaches recommend doing running sprints and twisting core exercises.
Mine has shrunk allitle bit over the past 4 months but unfortunately I don't think it's going to really shrink much anymore I guess this is our punishment for years of over indulgence but it's better than still being fat.
 
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