Anyone a Corvette person?

Dingo said:
One of our customers just acquired a '94 with only 30k on the ticker. Mint condition, except it was stored inside and mildly infested with mouse droppings. The original owner could not find anyone to pay for it. The guy that has it now did some landscaping in trade for the car.
Almost could not give it away.
We also had a 92 40k with manual trans, it was traded in. Same deal could not get anyone yo pay for it. We gave him almost nothing for the trade. It then sat on our used lot for months. I think it finally went to auction to get rid of it. Friggin worthless turds.
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Wow, people have no imagination. Buy that Vette for dirt cheap, gut the interior, bolt a roll cage in it, some cup tires or slicks and voila, worlds cheapest track car. Spend a little extra for headers and exhaust, maybe some mild suspension mods and hunt down 911's at your next track day.
 
Monkey Soup said:
Wow, people have no imagination. Buy that Vette for dirt cheap, gut the interior, bolt a roll cage in it, some cup tires or slicks and voila, worlds cheapest track car. Spend a little extra for headers and exhaust, maybe some mild suspension mods and hunt down 911's at your next track day.
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Nah, make a dune buggy or cart out of it.

 
Mountain Bike Mike said:
Wait - I must’ve missed the detail about Walter and his wife buying this to race... my bad...

I could’ve sworn he was looking for a nice classy vehicle to cruise around with the top down... i stand corrected...

But is we were talking about racing, fuk’n right buy a vette....
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Make no mistake, Mrs Walter intends to have her license revoked by this time next year
 
Dingo said:
One of our customers just acquired a '94 with only 30k on the ticker. Mint condition, except it was stored inside and mildly infested with mouse droppings. The original owner could not find anyone to pay for it. The guy that has it now did some landscaping in trade for the car.
Almost could not give it away.
We also had a 92 40k with manual trans, it was traded in. Same deal could not get anyone yo pay for it. We gave him almost nothing for the trade. It then sat on our used lot for months. I think it finally went to auction to get rid of it. Friggin worthless turds.
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That is one thing about vettes...Really anything past 68 isnt very valuable or would be considered a good investment. Certainly not a c4...I mean not even the super rare ZR-1 c4s arent worth anything near what they cost new. Very few exceptions. When they are new, they perform great for a large discount vs anything else costing more money...but very few post c3 have much collector desirability....
 
UtahJoe said:
That is one thing about vettes...Really anything past 68 isnt very valuable or would be considered a good investment. Certainly not a c4...I mean not even the super rare ZR-1 c4s arent worth anything near what they cost new. Very few exceptions. When they are new, they perform great for a large discount vs anything else costing more money...but very few post c3 have much collector desirability....
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C 4's are probally the biggest pos 'vette. I was there in '83&1/2 when they were new, all the way to end of production, working on all the problems. Tuned port 350's LT-1's 700R4 Every part of those cars should have been set on fire. Fuck them POShits

On a positive note, the 97 to 04 were pretty solid reliable fun cars, The 05 was a one year odd ball turd year Avoid that year at any price..
 
You don't buy a modern Corvette for it going up in price. You buy it for three reasons:

1) New - You retired, you ran the numbers and with the pension, SS, savings etc the Corvette of your dreams is possible. You buy the pinnacle of USA car engineering. There's no car in the world that's better than the Corvette. 'Merica

Week nights are filled with researching on the Corvette forums what type of wax to buy. Saturdays are wash the car and re-wax it days. Sunday is the day to drive it to the cars and coffee spot. Making sure not to go over 1/5 throttle. Eventually sell the car when the hip makes it too hard to get in and out of the car.

2) Used - Bought with 10-20 thousand miles from #1 for a steal. Drive it at the most 2/5 throttle. Eventually sell it because you eventually fall out of love with driving it just to drive it.

3) Used - Bought it at any mileage. Beats the hell out of it.

#3 is few and far between. I'm not judging.

And for everyone who says the Corvette is a POS, it's not. It's an absolute bargain for a performance car. It's well engineered. It's pretty much the sports car version of the Camry. Yes it's kind of boring, but it does exactly what it's supposed to. People have their biases, about what car is cooler/better. But a C5/C6 Corvette will pretty much just work until you sell it.

Just please, buy a manual transmission and also put a hitch for a bike rack. 🙂
 
What will happen to used pricing when the mid engine Corvette comes around? Will there be people grabbing the last year of front engine ones, and the price of earlier years drop?
 
JerseyPete said:
What will happen to used pricing when the mid engine Corvette comes around? Will there be people grabbing the last year of front engine ones, and the price of earlier years drop?
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Interesting question......The inability to put your golf clubs in the back alone....However its going to be considerable more expensive than a current version...Like probably starting at $75-80k vs 50K now...Might actually drive C6-C7 prices up a bit. Plus it doesnt look like the corvette anymore...which really hasnt changed much in the looks department since 1984. Im hoping for GM's sake that make it interesting and different enough (im sure its performance will be on par with whatever, 911, etc....) that people will want to buy it. It kinda looks like the acura NSX and acura cant give those cars away.
 
Santapez said:
You don't buy a modern Corvette for it going up in price. You buy it for three reasons:

1) New - You retired, you ran the numbers and with the pension, SS, savings etc the Corvette of your dreams is possible. You buy the pinnacle of USA car engineering. There's no car in the world that's better than the Corvette. 'Merica

Week nights are filled with researching on the Corvette forums what type of wax to buy. Saturdays are wash the car and re-wax it days. Sunday is the day to drive it to the cars and coffee spot. Making sure not to go over 1/5 throttle. Eventually sell the car when the hip makes it too hard to get in and out of the car.

2) Used - Bought with 10-20 thousand miles from #1 for a steal. Drive it at the most 2/5 throttle. Eventually sell it because you eventually fall out of love with driving it just to drive it.

3) Used - Bought it at any mileage. Beats the hell out of it.

#3 is few and far between. I'm not judging.

And for everyone who says the Corvette is a POS, it's not. It's an absolute bargain for a performance car. It's well engineered. It's pretty much the sports car version of the Camry. Yes it's kind of boring, but it does exactly what it's supposed to. People have their biases, about what car is cooler/better. But a C5/C6 Corvette will pretty much just work until you sell it.

Just please, buy a manual transmission and also put a hitch for a bike rack. 🙂
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The above describes buyers of just about every high-performance car from the 911 on up. I fall into category 3. I want a Porsche so that I can drive it till the wheels fall off. How many times in life do you get to do that?
 
Santapez said:
1) New - You retired, you ran the numbers and with the pension, SS, savings etc the Corvette of your dreams is possible. You buy the pinnacle of USA car engineering. There's no car in the world that's better than the Corvette. 'Merica

Week nights are filled with researching on the Corvette forums what type of wax to buy. Saturdays are wash the car and re-wax it days. Sunday is the day to drive it to the cars and coffee spot. Making sure not to go over 1/5 throttle. Eventually sell the car when the hip makes it too hard to get in and out of the car.
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I find this grossly inaccurate and insulting to retirees. For the record, I spend my week nights researching spray on cleaners and protectants, not waxes. Friday is clean and polish day. And I always go 2/5 throttle!
 
UtahJoe said:
Interesting question......The inability to put your golf clubs in the back alone....However its going to be considerable more expensive than a current version...Like probably starting at $75-80k vs 50K now...Might actually drive C6-C7 prices up a bit. Plus it doesnt look like the corvette anymore...which really hasnt changed much in the looks department since 1984. Im hoping for GM's sake that make it interesting and different enough (im sure its performance will be on par with whatever, 911, etc....) that people will want to buy it. It kinda looks like the acura NSX and acura cant give those cars away.
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How much is the Acura though? GM is able to actually do the Corvette continually as it's the inexpensive sports car. They do have volume and are able to rob enough parts from other divisions.

I wouldn't actually be surprised if the mid-engine car isn't more money to build and may be why they're doing it. They still get to use the truck engine that's so cheap. They get to skip the torque tube, carbon-fiber driveshaft. They have to have a lowish-production transaxle anyway with the current design. For everything else, it's basically the same costs.

Packaging may be easier as instead of having the exhaust under the car it exits immediately. The Corvette is known for having cooling issues so having a front-mounted radiator along with additional rear cooling vents may solve some of those issues.

And I'm sure fitting golf clubs in the frunk was a part of the design...
 
Santapez said:
How much is the Acura though? GM is able to actually do the Corvette continually as it's the inexpensive sports car. They do have volume and are able to rob enough parts from other divisions.

I wouldn't actually be surprised if the mid-engine car isn't more money to build and may be why they're doing it. They still get to use the truck engine that's so cheap. They get to skip the torque tube, carbon-fiber driveshaft. They have to have a lowish-production transaxle anyway with the current design. For everything else, it's basically the same costs.

Packaging may be easier as instead of having the exhaust under the car it exits immediately. The Corvette is known for having cooling issues so having a front-mounted radiator along with additional rear cooling vents may solve some of those issues.

And I'm sure fitting golf clubs in the frunk was a part of the design...
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Ya, GM definitely has the ability to absorb losses better than many companies....But mid engine cars also have more packaging issues...Like cooling system for example and putting all of this together on the assembly, which will have to be completely retooled....im sure it will be more expensive, it will also probably perform better than cars costing much more also. But really im just wondering what it does to the typical corvette buyer.....Making a car better in every measurable way does not always equal people like it more, and thus sales. Camaro is a great example....magazines rave about the 1LE and ZL1 performance, nobody cares, ford is selling twice as many mustangs....even the Challenger which has generally looked the same for like 10 years is burying the camaro sales. Maybe in the case of the C8 it looses the AARP crowd but gains a younger following.
 
ChrisG said:
Walter, I've found the car you want.

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UtahJoe said:
Ya, GM definitely has the ability to absorb losses better than many companies....But mid engine cars also have more packaging issues...Like cooling system for example and putting all of this together on the assembly, which will have to be completely retooled....im sure it will be more expensive, it will also probably perform better than cars costing much more also. But really im just wondering what it does to the typical corvette buyer.....Making a car better in every measurable way does not always equal people like it more, and thus sales. Camaro is a great example....magazines rave about the 1LE and ZL1 performance, nobody cares, ford is selling twice as many mustangs....even the Challenger which has generally looked the same for like 10 years is burying the camaro sales. Maybe in the case of the C8 it looses the AARP crowd but gains a younger following.
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The fiero was mid engine. That had terrible overheating issues that caused the block to crack.
 
Dingo said:
The fiero was mid engine. That had terrible overheating issues that caused the block to crack.
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It had terrible issues where people didn't know how to burp the system.

I had a gt. Any time it came back from service,I could look forward to running the heat in slow traffic to keep it cool.

I saw a small block conversion. It needed it
 
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