This Thread Blows - C19 and beyond


This is a summary of another study released in the last two days on underreporting of C19 deaths. It is consistent with the studies cited earlier in this thread. What is striking is the skewed numbers supporting the hypotheses.
 
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Had a thought yesterday, has there been a reduction in STDs ?
The literature says there has been a decline in reported cases - but their theory is that people
are not reporting because they don't want to go to the Dr, vs a reduction in casual sex.

Could correlate well to lockdown status?
 
At this point these inter-state "quarantines" are silly. There is no enforcement, the tristate area just increased their Francis list to 16 states - basically every one that has reopened before NJ. What's going to happen when NJ, NY cases start to rise, are they going to quarantine themselves??

That list is BS. I was in 7 different states last week and nobody said anything anywhere. Same as the mandatory quarantine when I bought my Camaro. Was in 6 States and went straight to work. Nobody said anything. No one enforces any of the rules. Do whatever you want, as long as you wear a mask.
 

This is a summary of another study released in the last two days on underreporting of C19 deaths. It is consistent with the studies cited earlier in this thread. What is striking is the skewed numbers supporting the hypotheses.

Did you read it thoroughly? It's attributing most of the excess deaths to the lockdowns, not covid.
 
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reading through here this morning reminded me of this guy fucking idiot (on a bike) i was forced to interact with last week while riding, he pulled up to a redlight that i was waiting at, yelled at me for not wearing a mask, then proceeded to run the redlight and keep riding . . . .
 
PA just did this:

no one enforces this crap and you can always say you are 6’ from someone
Yep, this is putting my newly acquired job in jeopardy. I will not be wearing a mask while hiking, let alone doing it in 90° heat.
 
Did you read it thoroughly? It's attributing most of the excess deaths to the lockdowns, not covid.

"Since COVID-19's spread to the United States earlier this year, death rates in the U.S. have risen significantly. But deaths attributed to COVID-19 only account for about two-thirds of the increase in March and April, according to a study published Wednesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association."

It says 2/3 from Covid.

The study then goes on to suggest that, for example, when a specific cause spikes 400% above normal, maybe it's not all from that specific cause. And that perhaps some of that 400% is due to untracked Covid.
 
"Since COVID-19's spread to the United States earlier this year, death rates in the U.S. have risen significantly. But deaths attributed to COVID-19 only account for about two-thirds of the increase in March and April, according to a study published Wednesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association."

It says 2/3 from Covid.

The study then goes on to suggest that, for example, when a specific cause spikes 400% above normal, maybe it's not all from that specific cause. And that perhaps some of that 400% is due to untracked Covid.

^^^^^^^^^^^. That's what I thought it said, but @SNOWFAK3 (aka @rick81721 ) what did you think it said?

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That list is BS. I was in 7 different states last week and nobody said anything anywhere. Same as the mandatory quarantine when I bought my Camaro. Was in 6 States and went straight to work. Nobody said anything. No one enforces any of the rules. Do whatever you want, as long as you wear a mask.

And stay under the limit.
 
Yep, this is putting my newly acquired job in jeopardy. I will not be wearing a mask while hiking, let alone doing it in 90° heat.

doesnt this one cover that you wouldNt need to wear one while hiking?
  • If you’re outdoors and unable to consistently maintain a distance of six feet or more from other people who aren’t members of your household.
 
Fuck wearing a mask in the woods. It’s the woods, there’s plenty of room to get the fuck out of each other’s way. If you’re that scared, stay home in your bubble.

Oh, I don't wear a fucking mask in the fucking woods, but when I crossed paths on ST with others this morning, I pulled the fucking fabric over my fucking mouth and fucking nose, because it keeps THEM ( u knew that part, doe?) safer. It also makes them feel better cuz it 's fucking courteous.

I'm not afraid to do either of those fucking things.
 
Did you read it thoroughly? It's attributing most of the excess deaths to the lockdowns, not covid.
Read it and last I checked 2/3 is more than 1/3. I also read a lot of "may haves". Maybe you should read it.
On another note, any life lost is a tragedy and not some silly percentage number. This is the most morbid thread ever. Like Stalin and Hitler discussing who killed more people.
Not a matter of being scared, just doing the right thing. Chump.
 
"Since COVID-19's spread to the United States earlier this year, death rates in the U.S. have risen significantly. But deaths attributed to COVID-19 only account for about two-thirds of the increase in March and April, according to a study published Wednesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association."

It says 2/3 from Covid.

The study then goes on to suggest that, for example, when a specific cause spikes 400% above normal, maybe it's not all from that specific cause. And that perhaps some of that 400% is due to untracked Covid.

I wrote my response incorrectly. @thegock has been inferring that the covid deaths have been undercounted by 30 some percent. This article suggests the excess deaths could be due to lockdown effects, not an undercount of covid.
 
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Read it and last I checked 2/3 is more than 1/3. I also read a lot of "may haves". Maybe you should read it.
On another note, any life lost is a tragedy and not some silly percentage number. This is the most morbid thread ever. Like Stalin and Hitler discussing who killed more people.
Not a matter of being scared, just doing the right thing. Chump.

This is a thread about a global pandemic, sorry if you have no clue about the science behind it. Of course all deaths are tragic, from any cause.
 
I wrote my response incorrectly. @thegock has been inferring that the covid deaths have been undercounted by 30 some percent. This article suggests the excess deaths could be due to lockdown effects, not an undercount of covid.

I was not trying to infer a 30% C19 death undercount, but show me where I said that, because I could have unknowingly inferred that.

I was saying that this VCU/Yale PhD authored paper is consistent with the CDC post #4,500 by @mfennell above. My takeaway was that the huge excesses in NYC cardiac and diabetes deaths may have been actually caused by C19. Or, as the linked article said: "This data, (Dr. Steven) Woolf said, suggests the COVID-19 death counts reported to the public underestimate the true death toll of the pandemic in the U.S. "
 
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Read it and last I checked 2/3 is more than 1/3. I also read a lot of "may haves". Maybe you should read it.
On another note, any life lost is a tragedy and not some silly percentage number. This is the most morbid thread ever. Like Stalin and Hitler discussing who killed more people.
Not a matter of being scared, just doing the right thing. Chump.
I would honestly like to know what you think the long term plan should be. Masks + social distancing = Flattening the curve. Flattening the curve does not eliminate the virus or stop the spread, only slow it down. Even a vaccine (which could take many more months/years) is only likely to be partially effective.

What is your proposal?
 
doesnt this one cover that you wouldNt need to wear one while hiking?
  • If you’re outdoors and unable to consistently maintain a distance of six feet or more from other people who aren’t members of your household.
It’s probably unavoidable since I’ll be on a boardwalk for an extended period of time. It’s only about 5’ wide with a few hundred steps.
 
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