rick81721
Lothar
Has nothing to do with demonstrations - the point is reopening safely. They are taking all the proper precautions, the police verified as such and let them be.
This Thread Blows - C19 and beyond
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Has nothing to do with demonstrations - the point is reopening safely. They are taking all the proper precautions, the police verified as such and let them be.
rick81721
Lothar
There are undoubtedly many more infections than we know as most are so mild the infected don't even know it. What I was discussing is the relevance of the "recovered" numbers when they don't jive with the reality of infection, which is basically 2 weeks - you either recover and it's over or die. There's no in between.
mfennell
Well-Known Member
Yeah, I'm sure the recovered number is the least reliable. This article looks into it a little:
Most people recover from Covid-19. Here's why it's hard to pinpoint exactly how many
It's a question that many want answered: Exactly how many people recover from Covid-19?
www.cnn.com
mfennell
Well-Known Member
rick81721
Lothar
Sure but that's a small percentage of total cases. Worldometer says US has 15K severe/critical cases. I doubt that's a real number but even if it's 10 times that, the numbers still don't add up.
Because - like @Santa said - do what you are comfortable with. This is my comfort level.
A couple people riding doesn't create a crowd - can easily stay 10 yards apart
within view of each other. doesn't clog the parking lot. hello, ride, see ya.
While there are more people at the sourlands now, there is a risk of riding alone, anywhere.
just like there is a chance of riding off the road and not being found for a couple hours
cause nobody is watching the phone move.
Also nice to see a few people - good for the mental health.
rick81721
Lothar
I thought we were talking about the risk of getting infected with covid. If you want to lump in any risk, that's a whole different ball game. Anywho, whatever floats your boat. In covid-central NJ, I'm staying away from other cyclists until I find out if I've had it already.
In case you haven’t read enough articles, here’s a good summary of C19 risk. Sure would love to see this kind of info coming from a Govt agency.
www.erinbromage.com
The Risks - Know Them - Avoid Them
Please read this link to learn about the author and background to these posts. It seems many people are breathing some relief, and I’m not sure why. An epidemic curve has a relatively predictable upslope and once the peak is reached, the back slope can also be predicted. We have robust data from...
www.erinbromage.com
In case you haven’t read enough articles, here’s a good summary of C19 risk. Sure would love to see this kind of info coming from a Govt agency.
The Risks - Know Them - Avoid Them
Please read this link to learn about the author and background to these posts. It seems many people are breathing some relief, and I’m not sure why. An epidemic curve has a relatively predictable upslope and once the peak is reached, the back slope can also be predicted. We have robust data from...
interesting - so applying this to riding, where there is airflow in "predictable" relative directions, and spacing.
In a direct downwind from someone "breathing hard" - one could take a heavy load - any cross wind
at all would eliminate most exposure.
just for reference - 9mph with 10 yards between is about 2.2 seconds.
lesson - be aware of the wind, chat with a cross wind. don't yell!
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We kept it very casual on our ride Sunday. most of the effort was spend on sessioning, and we were
well separated - in my comfort zone.
GSTim
Formerly M3Tim
I haven't had much to say here, but from my experiences during the last week or so, social distancing/mask wearing is dead outside of well controlled areas (stores, work, etc.). People are fed up and it shows. People showing up at my house (acquaintances, etc.) are kind of looking for clues, but if I don't immediately grab my mask, they don't either.
I was at Chimney Rock today and here are some observations:
I was at Chimney Rock today and here are some observations:
- Newmans Lane lot completely full, no one wearing masks (including me).
- Full on street hockey game going on at the ball field court
- Basketball game going on 50 feet away
- Groups of 15-20 teens gathered around the park and at the trail entrances, had to ride around one to get out to Gilbride.
Tim
aka sptimmy43
If you're going to try and make a point at least be correct. No one was carrying automatic weapons in Michigan. Learn the difference.
thegock
Well-Known Member
In case you haven’t read enough articles, here’s a good summary of C19 risk. Sure would love to see this kind of info coming from a Govt agency.
The Risks - Know Them - Avoid Them
Please read this link to learn about the author and background to these posts. It seems many people are breathing some relief, and I’m not sure why. An epidemic curve has a relatively predictable upslope and once the peak is reached, the back slope can also be predicted. We have robust data from...
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JerseyPete
Well-Known Member
*begins fist pumping in the IROC Z while blasting Bon Jovi as I head towards Seaside Heights*
Paul H
Fearless OOS Poser
IDK... those Michigan dudes did not look like the "right to bear arms" to defend myself demeanor
They looked more like... "mess with me and I am going to f you up!" Maybe I am stereotyping.
Don't know much about fire arms... but I am pretty sure I saw something like them in Rambo.
thegock
Well-Known Member
IDK... those Michigan dudes did not look like the "right to bear arms" to defend myself demeanor
They looked more like... "mess with me and I am going to f you up!" Maybe I am stereotyping.
Don't know much about fire arms... but I am pretty sure I saw something like them in Rambo.
Maybe we should turn this into a 2nd Amendment thread?
Kaleidopete
Well-Known Member
Tim
aka sptimmy43
I think a really big problem right now is misinformation. It would be really great if everyone could put their agenda aside for once.
BPaze
Well-Known Member
Michigan has a pretty serious history with extreme militias older article but still a prevalent group obviously.
Domestic Terrorism: Focus on Militia Extremism | Federal Bureau of Investigation
The latest story in our series on domestic terror threats looks at militia extremists.
www.fbi.gov
In my opinion there behavior has nothing to do with guns but severe extremism and anti government leanings. My company has an office in Grand Rapids MI and the people I spoke with says this group is real scary.
I have no desire to discuss politics but an anti government militia group marching on govt offices is 3rd world scary.
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
For once Facebook Ads nailed it. Coronavirus World Tour death metal tee. The back originally had the number of deaths at time of printing but some pansy whined about that being insensitive or some shit. Because you know, death metal is all about being sensitive.
