OOS MOGA

thegock said:
Oooozzzin @ Stephens:

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As the resident roadie that’s a wanna be MTB rider that was a good challenge and a great ride thanks to @Reggie leading and @thegock and @Patrick sweeping and making sure I didn’t get left for dead even if I wanted to throw myself over one of the various rock ledges I walked.

Good to meet some cool peeps and have a nice cold drank at the end.

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Had a great time today, I missed riding with OOS and even @thegock (still not leaving you my el mariachi). Happy the old wheels I bought originally from @Magic held up well, I probably should have rode the Knolly but for some reason I convinced myself that hardtail was the way to go. Had to skip on some funny stuff, still managed some air trying to work out my way to some real drops. Safety first.
 
serviceguy said:
If I am not mistaken OOS rides have always been posted in the OOS thread. Wasn’t the thread started for the very purpose to do so?
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What we have here, is a failure to communicate 😂.

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The OOS thread was started 4/30/18 for group rides and was in the Race, Rides, Events section. Then within a couple of months after the thread started it morphed into a combo of group rides and entertainment (being the volume of posts). The thread become so busy(30,000 posts during the 1st year) that it was switched from the Race, Rides, Events section to General Bike Talk section as it was difficult to classify and it was bumping other rides and events out of view. The volume of posts crashed and burned after the first year. Was a wild year, many rides… And was a ton of fun! That’s the Cliff Notes version.
 
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Great ride today. Always cool to share a good time with the usual suspects, and few new ones as well. Thanks to @Reggie for leading, and providing some quality post ride refreshment. Now to decide if it's worth my while to toss an entry into the hat for the actual race, having ridden the course.
 
mtbiker87 said:
Now to decide if it's worth my while to toss an entry into the hat for the actual race, having ridden the course.
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About that. At the end of the ride yesterday I expressed my thoughts about not racing the course because I don't stand a chance to win, but really I would hate to be the guy that has to stop for breather on a 12.5 miles race. Talking about it with @Patrick and @iman29 after the ride though, I realized that during the July challenge I never really stop during my rides unless somebody was chatting me or I had to crawl over an obstacle etc. So I am back puzzling over this thing myself.
 
The actual chance of winning is probably low.
Reason being the 12.5 race is not age graded,so some 14yo is going to blow the whole thing up.

^^^This is not important. What is important? Having an event on the calendar to work towards.
Deciding to ride a few hills over the next 6 weeks, rather than the flat loop every time!
6 weeks is a good number, def can make a difference with a plan.

We were going at a good clip when moving yesterday - can you get to the top of the climbs then recover on the bike?
Moderate the climbs so you can? none of them were so long, or so steep. most were rewarded with a little dh.

Then once it gets spread out a bit, can you hold off the person behind you?
Can you catch the person in front of you because they went out too hard?
Can you maintain the mental toughness to keep going for 90 minutes?
Sure, there will be some walking - but jump right back on. quickly fix a mechanical?

you don't have to be great to start, but you have to start to be great.
(from one of the olympic commercials - #validPoint)

besides, classic stories come from events like these!
 
Patrick said:
The actual chance of winning is probably low.
Reason being the 12.5 race is not age graded,so some 14yo is going to blow the whole thing up.

^^^This is not important. What is important? Having an event on the calendar to work towards.
Deciding to ride a few hills over the next 6 weeks, rather than the flat loop every time!
6 weeks is a good number, def can make a difference with a plan.

We were going at a good clip when moving yesterday - can you get to the top of the climbs then recover on the bike?
Moderate the climbs so you can? none of them were so long, or so steep. most were rewarded with a little dh.

Then once it gets spread out a bit, can you hold off the person behind you?
Can you catch the person in front of you because they went out too hard?
Can you maintain the mental toughness to keep going for 90 minutes?
Sure, there will be some walking - but jump right back on. quickly fix a mechanical?

you don't have to be great to start, but you have to start to be great.
(from one of the olympic commercials - #validPoint)

besides, classic stories come from events like these!
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All solid points. I feel I could vastly improve if I could ride that course again a few times, but I can't. I wouldn't be able to ride Stephen's before the race in October, and the climbs in Ringwood are very different in my opinion, not sure they would work the same in term of preparation.

One think that kind of bothered me yesterday was that I started having the feeling that I was too close to the lead and slowing everybody behind me down. Then I had two sudden stops in front of @Mr.Moto that I should have avoided if I didn't have my head up my ass and forgot to down switch, which made me think I wouldn't be a welcome addition to the race scene and would be received like 'that ass that can't throw himself on the side fast enough when his legs give up'.

So I have some thinking to do. And pedaling.
 
serviceguy said:
All solid points. I feel I could vastly improve if I could ride that course again a few times, but I can't. I wouldn't be able to ride Stephen's before the race in October, and the climbs in Ringwood are very different in my opinion, not sure they would work the same in term of preparation.

One think that kind of bothered me yesterday was that I started having the feeling that I was too close to the lead and slowing everybody behind me down. Then I had two sudden stops in front of @Mr.Moto that I should have avoided if I didn't have my head up my ass and forgot to down switch, which made me think I wouldn't be a welcome addition to the race scene and would be received like 'that ass that can't throw himself on the side fast enough when his legs give up'.

So I have some thinking to do. And pedaling.
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On passing -

You can offer to let the person behind you pass (they may just be sitting in for a break)
Or they should ask - and you let them by next convenient place. which isn't on tight single track or ripping a dh - there just isn't room.
i usually wait for a corner, tell them to take the inside line.

There is plenty of room on that course to pass - someone really fast needs to get by on a single track climb, step off high side and let them by.

as far as sudden stops when you can't clear something....
happens all the time at every level. you step off, let people by (shoulder the bike and run!), get back in when it is clear.
Hey @UtahJoe, do pros dab in the tech?

Won't be much traffic on a course this long, and the 12.5 is probably going off last.
fast group will catch them 45 minutes in. so half way home! And that will only be the fastest people cause they still need
to do another 2.5 laps.

you are way over-thinking it, and that is my job.
esp the fitness - again, you did great yesterday. no-drop group rides are nothing like a race - Burke would be two bevs in by the time I finish!
Sure another pre-ride might help you get your best-best time.
Racing will get your best time.

Here is how it is going to go -
Bang - everyone goes hard, some as hard as they can.
Stop! someone muffs the turn into the single track, and there is a big bottleneck,
even if nobody muffs it, there is going to be a bottleneck - you might be behind, or in front! It is what it is.
Get through this, then start the climb - the climbers climb and establish their position.
race is now spread out, it becomes one section at a time - push to close, ride clean as possible, try to hold off the pursuit.
this happens for the next hour or so - and you finish.

Put your race number on the wall - write-up how much fun it was, and you can't wait to do the 25 next year
so you can bury me. 😉
 
serviceguy said:
About that. At the end of the ride yesterday I expressed my thoughts about not racing the course because I don't stand a chance to win, but really I would hate to be the guy that has to stop for breather on a 12.5 miles race. Talking about it with @Patrick and @iman29 after the ride though, I realized that during the July challenge I never really stop during my rides unless somebody was chatting me or I had to crawl over an obstacle etc. So I am back puzzling over this thing myself.
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The Win is on the inside.
 
serviceguy said:
All solid points. I feel I could vastly improve if I could ride that course again a few times, but I can't. I wouldn't be able to ride Stephen's before the race in October, and the climbs in Ringwood are very different in my opinion, not sure they would work the same in term of preparation.

One think that kind of bothered me yesterday was that I started having the feeling that I was too close to the lead and slowing everybody behind me down. Then I had two sudden stops in front of @Mr.Moto that I should have avoided if I didn't have my head up my ass and forgot to down switch, which made me think I wouldn't be a welcome addition to the race scene and would be received like 'that ass that can't throw himself on the side fast enough when his legs give up'.

So I have some thinking to do. And pedaling.
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I think you think too much. I’ll guarantee that the soundtrack that plays over and over in your head while you’re riding with others is basically a shared soundtrack amongst the group- albeit it plays a bit louder for some more than others
 
serviceguy said:
All solid points. I feel I could vastly improve if I could ride that course again a few times, but I can't. I wouldn't be able to ride Stephen's before the race in October, and the climbs in Ringwood are very different in my opinion, not sure they would work the same in term of preparation.

One think that kind of bothered me yesterday was that I started having the feeling that I was too close to the lead and slowing everybody behind me down. Then I had two sudden stops in front of @Mr.Moto that I should have avoided if I didn't have my head up my ass and forgot to down switch, which made me think I wouldn't be a welcome addition to the race scene and would be received like 'that ass that can't throw himself on the side fast enough when his legs give up'.

So I have some thinking to do. And pedaling.
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No worries on the stopping. We’re all riding bikes and having a good time.

For racing, @Patrick had the answers for you.
 
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