My first thought also.The problem with going this route, is they (the winning bidder) would expect us JORBA, DVW and myself, to build, maintain and repair the trails for free.
Need to be careful here and pay attention.
My first thought also.The problem with going this route, is they (the winning bidder) would expect us JORBA, DVW and myself, to build, maintain and repair the trails for free.
Well you already do that for free, the problem would be if they damaged trails and did not make repairs. Or they would have to stay clear of established mtb trails.The problem with going this route, is they (the winning bidder) would expect us JORBA, DVW and myself, to build, maintain and repair the trails for free.
That would be sweet. Just maybe not on the current surface or you'd be out of tires and a bumper in under a run.Hell, if you held an Autocross once a month you'd make your money back 10-fold.
I'm sure this is already Jorba's platform.
TrueWell you already do that for free, the problem would be if they damaged trails and did not make repairs. Or they would have to stay clear of established mtb trails.
Our message to the state needs to be that there are established trails at Jungle which park users have enjoyed over the years and these trails should not be jeopardized because the state wants to make some money...only say it nicer. I'm sure this is already Jorba's platform.
I believe it explicitly excluded motorized vehicle activities.Agreed, MTB use is not where the money would come from. There is a ton of potential for other outdoor sports and recreational activities to happen that would bring in significantly more than the $1,000/month lease. Hell, if you held an Autocross once a month you'd make your money back 10-fold.
I don't know if we can find that kind of financial donor given the time available to us. But I am fairly sure one exists. Can this be something realistic? I don't know, I would love to try and find out, help make it happen. I would not hold my breath but in this day and age of people sitting on their asses and complaining about things and not doing them, I am more than happy to be one of the few people who tries and fails as opposed to the scores of people who try nothing, fail at nothing, and succeed at nothing.
@pooriggy in some daisy dukes shortsI'm thinking about being Boss Hogg for Halloween. Maybe we can make it a Dukes of Hazzard theme park.
so this started back here... http://www.mtbnj.com/forum/threads/where-is-this-going-commercialization-of-jh.39622/
getting $$ to back something that would be profitable really isn't a problem.
what would be profitable?
mtb - day pass/season pass (jorba members are free of course - that is called leverage)
zip line/tree obstacle course (these are huge)
property history tours
something tied to the airport (meaning a rental bikes - i kid you not, pilots look for adventures)
mud runs/xterra
adventure racing (we know a guy)
trail ultras
is there a spot for a tubing hill? - this creates a cost problem, cause the parking lot would need to be plowed.
is wayway camping full?
transient rv parking/day pass
yes, bring back some otters! ok, maybe not. but some monkeys pulling off wiper blades would be a blast.
parking lot use - swap meet, go carts (electric), driving school, motorcycle training weekend, drive in movies, concert venue
Summer camp - maybe use portable buildings?
ok, that was 3 minutes of thinking. if anyone wants to flush it out, let me know. figure my consulting rate should prevent any reasonable profit
in the first 5 years
yes - there would need to be a paid staff, or quid-pro-quo arrangement with trail maintenance workers - there are other models.
I guess most mountain bikers have not been to kingdom trails And paid $15 to ride in heaven .My stance is I will not pay to ride my bike anywhere unless there is a chairlift and i think most mountain bikers feel the same way. If there's a fee to ride Jungle, no matter how good it is, i will not ride there because there are some many other free options. I hope this just goes away and everything remains status quo.
My stance is I will not pay to ride my bike anywhere unless there is a chairlift and i think most mountain bikers feel the same way. If there's a fee to ride Jungle, no matter how good it is, i will not ride there because there are some many other free options. I hope this just goes away and everything remains status quo.
My stance is I will not pay to ride my bike anywhere unless there is a chairlift and i think most mountain bikers feel the same way. If there's a fee to ride Jungle, no matter how good it is, i will not ride there because there are some many other free options. I hope this just goes away and everything remains status quo.