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The vaccination flood gates will open in Feb when J&J's single dose, cold storage not needed vaccine gets approved.
Looking at wikipedia on all the corona virus vaccines, there's a ton out there.

It'd be nice in 6 months to get a choice of whatever the best one of them is.

I'm a bit skeptical due to the earlier experimental experiences with SARS vaccines. mRNA virus is potentially the least problematic which is what we've got going now.
 
Looking at wikipedia on all the corona virus vaccines, there's a ton out there.

It'd be nice in 6 months to get a choice of whatever the best one of them is.

I'm a bit skeptical due to the earlier experimental experiences with SARS vaccines. mRNA virus is potentially the least problematic which is what we've got going now.
Just pay attention to where this happens:

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Looking at wikipedia on all the corona virus vaccines, there's a ton out there.

It'd be nice in 6 months to get a choice of whatever the best one of them is.

I'm a bit skeptical due to the earlier experimental experiences with SARS vaccines. mRNA virus is potentially the least problematic which is what we've got going now.

J&J vaccine works on the same principle as the mRNA vaccines. Still enlists our own cells to crank out the covid spike protein. But it uses an adenovirus containing DNA for the protein rather than what are basically man-made cells containing RNA.
 
So I started that graph I tried to get @Patrick to do, and after almost 3 weeks, there are a few things that are clear:

1. The distribution of the vaccine at this point is a total ass clown circus. The US has not even administered 5M vaccines yet. Total fail
2. Total cases are on the upswing again, the 7 day average
3. This leads to the short-term conclusion that A) this is nowhere near over and B) people are pretending it is
 
So I started that graph I tried to get @Patrick to do, and after almost 3 weeks, there are a few things that are clear:

1. The distribution of the vaccine at this point is a total ass clown circus. The US has not even administered 5M vaccines yet. Total fail
2. Total cases are on the upswing again, the 7 day average
3. This leads to the short-term conclusion that A) this is nowhere near over and B) people are pretending it is

are you putting the data in a google sheet? you can either live-import mine or visa-vera for a combi

I was chatting up my friend in the sanitary waste industry somewhere upstate.
They have been sending samples from their water treatment plant - says the poop readings lead the
confirmed cases by about 2 weeks. While they won't shut things down based on that shit 😉 it does
get the gvt prep'ed to act.
 
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I registered with the state and got Phase 1A somehow....which makes absolutely no sense. At best I should be 1B, most likely 1C.
 
are you putting the data in a google sheet? you can either live-import mine or visa-vera for a combi

I was chatting up my friend in the sanitary waste industry somewhere upstate.
They have been sending samples from their water treatment plant - says the poop readings lead the
confirmed cases by about 2 weeks. While they won't shut things down based on that shit 😉 it does
get the gvt prep'ed to act.
Colleges have been doing this with dorms. Dorm effluent has Coronavirus, so they close/quarantine the dorm.

Is there a Parts Per Billion or something that your friend mentioned? Not sure how well you can figure out caseload, but it may actually be possible via particle amount.

I know on Long Island SUNY is taking samples from the plants for Coronavirus research, but haven't seen info on if they can extrapolate how many people infected, etc. A dorm is binary, infected or not infected. A plant that serves 10 million people is going to have Coronavirus, but the volume would change.
 
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Colleges have been doing this with dorms. Dorm effluent has Coronavirus, so they close/quarantine the dorm.

Is there a Parts Per Billion or something that your friend mentioned? Not sure how well you can figure out caseload, but it may actually be possible via particle amount.

I know on Long Island SUNY is taking samples from the plants for Coronavirus research, but haven't seen info on if they can extrapolate how many people infected, etc. A dorm is binary, infected or not infected. A plant that serves 10 million people is going to have Coronavirus, but the volume would change.

it is the city of Plattsburg - which is like the town of Morristown.....only more room between the people, and the next town.
He just said he can spot the trend, and it results in spikes two weeks later. not sure how tightly correlated the amounts are to cases,
but it is def a foretaste.
 
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it is the city of Plattsburg - which is like the town of Morristown.....only more room between the people, and the next town.
He just said he can spot the trend, and it results in spikes two weeks later. not sure how tightly correlated the amounts are to cases,
but the it is def a foretaste.
Taste isn't a scientifically suitable method for detection of things in wastewater. Not accurate nor repeatable.
 
So I started that graph I tried to get @Patrick to do, and after almost 3 weeks, there are a few things that are clear:

1. The distribution of the vaccine at this point is a total ass clown circus. The US has not even administered 5M vaccines yet. Total fail

The first vaccine was just approved less than 4 weeks ago - it's going to take time with massive demand and very limited supply. Who is doing better so far - according to this website, Israel, UAE, Bahrain, Scotland and Northern Ireland. The current vaccines are challenging to store and distribute, a huge country like ours only makes it worse:

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
 
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The first vaccine was just approved less than 4 weeks ago - it's going to take time with massive demand and very limited supply. Who is doing better so far - according to this website, Israel, UAE, Bahrain, Scotland and Northern Ireland. The current vaccines are challenging to store and distribute, a huge country like ours only makes it worse:

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

We as a country knew this day was coming for months. While the vaccines were just approved, you'd think that some effort would be put into being ready to distribute. It's not like we just found out 4 weeks ago this was going to happen.

And really from a philosophical perspective, "That guys sucks more," is not an ideal to strive for.
 
We as a country knew this day was coming for months. While the vaccines were just approved, you'd think that some effort would be put into being ready to distribute. It's not like we just found out 4 weeks ago this was going to happen.

And really from a philosophical perspective, "That guys sucks more," is not an ideal to strive for.

So did everyone else. It has nothing to do with "who sucks more", it's an exceedingly difficult logistical exercise, as is evident with all the other countries trying to do this. Like I posted previously, when J&J gets approved next month, vaccination will skyrocket.
 
that is ridiculous - it doesn't just show up either.
the problem is they haven't distributed the supply they have. 1 of 5 million - lame.
 
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Ahhhhh. @SLIKRICK posts on 4/29 (FLA 1,268 dead bodies) that "everything's fine." 41 dead per day 7DMA. Right now, FLA 22,200 dead bodies and 112 7DMA. But consider the source, @Norm ...

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