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Mostly correct. However you forgot a few key points:

* Daily phase of total disbelief that school is still a thing when the kids wake up every day
* Endless complaints from pretty much anyone with a social media account, both for and against, pretty much anything school-related
* Kids at school approximately enough time to go home and sniff an entire can of paint thinner before needing to return to pick them up
* Daily realization that absolutely 0.0 was done at school and the remainder of the work needs to be done at home
* The false sense of home now being a "schoolwork free zone" by the kids

My predicted timeline:

~9/1: Schools open
~10/1: Schools close
~12/1: Plan emerges to roll out vaccine
~2/1: Kids back in school for real
~3/1: Just like a traffic jam, the moment it is over we will all forget this relatively minor inconvenience
~4/1: Social media accounts now full of some other inane nonsense that has nothing to do with Coronavirus nor murder hornets
I saw an example of last year's murder hornet by my back door when leaving for work yesterday.
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Mostly correct. However you forgot a few key points:

* Daily phase of total disbelief that school is still a thing when the kids wake up every day
* Endless complaints from pretty much anyone with a social media account, both for and against, pretty much anything school-related
* Kids at school approximately enough time to go home and sniff an entire can of paint thinner before needing to return to pick them up
* Daily realization that absolutely 0.0 was done at school and the remainder of the work needs to be done at home
* The false sense of home now being a "schoolwork free zone" by the kids

My predicted timeline:

~9/1: Schools open
~10/1: Schools close
~12/1: Plan emerges to roll out vaccine
~2/1: Kids back in school for real
~3/1: Just like a traffic jam, the moment it is over we will all forget this relatively minor inconvenience
~4/1: Social media accounts now full of some other inane nonsense that has nothing to do with Coronavirus nor murder hornets

Wait, since when was anything actually done in school? This new home-schooling thing is just an extension of what we already did. I'll also be surprised if school stays open to 10/1, I predict things change before school even starts. I also don't believe a vaccine will be available 12/1, wishful thinking. Eventually this will all pass and we can go back to arguing politics and global warming. Global Warming is lonely right now, it wants its position back as the #1 threat to mankind.
 
Great idea if you have the luxury of either not working or working from home to facilitate this home classroom. Can you file for a return of your school taxes?

Article said it was a rich person thing, taking off in CA. You only need one parent who doesn't work and none if you truly trust the teacher. Plenty of people pay for private school and get nothing out of their school taxes anyway. This can give someone a piece of mind that their kid is only exposed to few others and they might actually learn something
 
Article said it was a rich person thing, taking off in CA. You only need one parent who doesn't work and none if you truly trust the teacher. Plenty of people pay for private school and get nothing out of their school taxes anyway. This can give someone a piece of mind that their kid is only exposed to few others and they might actually learn something
Depending on the state, you can file deductions for private education...though I wonder how this scenario would work. You need the schools tax ID to file the deduction.
 
Regarding school, no longer applies to us, tho our son (who is still going to Rutgers) is pissed that they aren't going back to a full, in class schedule this fall.
 
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I am falling behind. What with all this riding, trail maintenance and glue sniffing, how can one find time to read the paper?

Here is a great article that the 7/21/20 WSJ hides behind its paywall, but I will summarize for free:


Here is the Executive Summary for important folk:

"An analysis of 26 different studies estimating the infection-fatality rate in different parts of the globe found an aggregate estimate of about 0.68%, with a range of 0.53% to 0.82%, according to a report posted in July on the preprint server medRxiv, which hasn’t yet been reviewed by other researchers."


And this is the math bit that the fluidiots didn't quite understand:

“It’s not just what the infection-fatality rate is. It’s also how contagious the disease is, and Covid is very contagious,” said Eric Toner, an emergency medicine physician and senior scholar at Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, who studies health-care preparedness for epidemics and infectious diseases. “It’s the combination of the fatality rate and the infectiousness that makes this such a dangerous disease.”

Have to get back to the widget factory now.
 
Regarding school, no longer applies to us, tho our son (who is still going to Rutgers) is pissed that they aren't going back to a full, in class schedule this fall.

My son goes back to Pitt in two weeks. The school is asking all students on or off campus to "self quarantine" for 14 days before attending a class in person. We mention it to him and he says "yup, we're supposed to." Good luck with that.
 
Wait, since when was anything actually done in school? This new home-schooling thing is just an extension of what we already did. I'll also be surprised if school stays open to 10/1, I predict things change before school even starts. I also don't believe a vaccine will be available 12/1, wishful thinking. Eventually this will all pass and we can go back to arguing politics and global warming. Global Warming is lonely right now, it wants its position back as the #1 threat to mankind.

I admit that I don't really believe schools will reopen. Wishful thinking I guess.

And since the gov just committed $2B to a vaccine for EOY, I figure they'll be sticking something in people, effective or not.
 
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Those are totally Goldfish.

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Thinking alike.

was gonna say those were sludge pipes.
 
Labcorp all but says the test is inaccurate. Definitely a sound basis for years of educational and business planning.
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My son goes back to Pitt in two weeks. The school is asking all students on or off campus to "self quarantine" for 14 days before attending a class in person. We mention it to him and he says "yup, we're supposed to." Good luck with that.

One of our interns is an RA. He has to show up to school 3 weeks early and quarantine at the school. Can't leave, they'll bring his food. The difference between that and prison? I'm not too sure.

Oddly enough, he had Covid back in March, so not sure why the quarantine is even required for him.
 
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I admit that I don't really believe schools will reopen. Wishful thinking I guess.

And since the gov just committed $2B to a vaccine for EOY, I figure they'll be sticking something in people, effective or not.

The gov just inked a $2B deal with Pfizer. Knowing how clinical trials and Regulatory filings are supposed to work, I have my doubts. The danger with approving and mass producing the first vaccine that just works “ok” is that it kind of reduces the competitions willingness and incentive to develop a better one. They should choose the one with the best efficacy, not just the one that gets there first.
 
Wait, since when was anything actually done in school? This new home-schooling thing is just an extension of what we already did. I'll also be surprised if school stays open to 10/1, I predict things change before school even starts. I also don't believe a vaccine will be available 12/1, wishful thinking. Eventually this will all pass and we can go back to arguing politics and global warming. Global Warming is lonely right now, it wants its position back as the #1 threat to mankind.
But arguing about COVID is arguing about politics
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I am falling behind. What with all this riding, trail maintenance and glue sniffing, how can one find time to read the paper?

Here is a great article that the 7/21/20 WSJ hides behind its paywall, but I will summarize for free:


Here is the Executive Summary for important folk:

"An analysis of 26 different studies estimating the infection-fatality rate in different parts of the globe found an aggregate estimate of about 0.68%, with a range of 0.53% to 0.82%, according to a report posted in July on the preprint server medRxiv, which hasn’t yet been reviewed by other researchers."


And this is the math bit that the fluidiots didn't quite understand:

“It’s not just what the infection-fatality rate is. It’s also how contagious the disease is, and Covid is very contagious,” said Eric Toner, an emergency medicine physician and senior scholar at Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, who studies health-care preparedness for epidemics and infectious diseases. “It’s the combination of the fatality rate and the infectiousness that makes this such a dangerous disease.”

Have to get back to the widget factory now.

The final lethality will be lower, but still several times higher than the flu.

In FL, there are some shenanigans going on with testing an death attribution. Some kid in his 20s was killed in a motorcycle crash last week, it was originally coded as a covid death because he had previously tested positive, until a local news affiliate called them on it and it was changed. Positive/% positive is inflated, tho I don't believe by a huge amount, due to some smaller labs caught only sending in positive results and no negatives. Also there are reports of people filling out paperwork for testing, waiting in line, taking too long so they drop out of line, never get tested, but then get informed a few days later they are positive. Talked to my brother in Lakeland the other day and he personally knows two people this happened to. Very strange, tho again I don't think it changes the overall picture much.

Anywho, my projection based on current trend line is new cases/day will be back to where we were prior to re-opening (May 1) by end of August. Potentially sooner if my lower herd immunity theory is correct. Note with the current level of testing, that would be around 3-4K new cases/day. The key is to see % positive below 5%. Since deaths lag, I would expect another two weeks of record deaths/day highs, then will decline. We shall see.
 
The final lethality will be lower, but still several times higher than the flu.

In FL, there are some shenanigans going on with testing an death attribution. Some kid in his 20s was killed in a motorcycle crash last week, it was originally coded as a covid death because he had previously tested positive, until a local news affiliate called them on it and it was changed. Positive/% positive is inflated, tho I don't believe by a huge amount, due to some smaller labs caught only sending in positive results and no negatives. Also there are reports of people filling out paperwork for testing, waiting in line, taking too long so they drop out of line, never get tested, but then get informed a few days later they are positive. Talked to my brother in Lakeland the other day and he personally knows two people this happened to. Very strange, tho again I don't think it changes the overall picture much.

Anywho, my projection based on current trend line is new cases/day will be back to where we were prior to re-opening (May 1) by end of August. Potentially sooner if my lower herd immunity theory is correct. Note with the current level of testing, that would be around 3-4K new cases/day. The key is to see % positive below 5%. Since deaths lag, I would expect another two weeks of record deaths/day highs, then will decline. We shall see.

Happened to my neighbor here in NJ too. Bailed on a long line and received a positive for the test he didn't take.
 
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