Things that make you go Wow 😲

Norm said:
This is an interesting thing. The kids now are growing up with media of people dying on video. It's a tad more than we grew up with. Never really thought about this before.
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Yes - constant access with the phone to much darker things than we had as a kid.

Watching the Gulf War live in 91 was about as nuts as it got. Maybe a National Geographic in the Library could deliver worse.

As for the movies - not sure about everyone else, but when I was a kid most of my friends only had one TV in the house - and violent movies (although around) were not readily available. We were sent to the basement to play with toys and our imagination - we were good with that.

Drugs? I remember someone found a bag of weed on the beach in Avon when I was in seventh grade - but no one knew what to do with it. Now you just go online and find tutorials for pretty much anything.
 
Johnny Utah said:
Yes - constant access with the phone to much darker things than we had as a kid.

Watching the Gulf War live in 91 was about as nuts as it got. Maybe a National Geographic in the Library could deliver worse.

As for the movies - not sure about everyone else, but when I was a kid most of my friends only had one TV in the house - and violent movies (although around) were not readily available. We were sent to the basement to play with toys and our imagination - we were good with that.

Drugs? I remember someone found a bag of weed on the beach in Avon when I was in seventh grade - but no one knew what to do with it. Now you just go online and find tutorials for pretty much anything.
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Damn, half my school was on drugs in 7th grade. My first job was rolling joints for a friend to sell at school since his looked like shit.
 
well.. if we're sharing "back in my day" stories...

i watched horror movies all the time as a kid... in fact, the mom and pop video store we went to refused to let me rent R movies because i was clearly not 17... my dad actually marched in there later that day and told the woman running the place that if i wanted to rent garbage horror movies and get nightmares, i could. (yay, dad!)

and i turned out just fine. 😝

when i was in like 6th grade, one of my classmates told me that my cousins were his pot dealers... we don't have the same last name so my cousins must have shared that info with my classmate.... i don't know... my cousins never gave me anything so 🤷‍♀️
 
Bike N Gear said:
It's just so different now. I mean, I had nuclear bomb drills where we sat under the desks at school.👍 Kid's now have active shooter drills and then get to see the aftermath of real shootings every night on the news while eating dinner. It's just business as usual for them. When my son was in HS just a few years back he said everybody knew who their school shooter would be. Thankfully it never happened, but they knew who to watch out for.
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Forget the active shooter drills, in 3 years my son has 2 active shooter incidents in his HS. They turned out not to be shooters but they locked it down the same way. One a student with a knife attacked a principal and made there way into the school. They put the school on lock down and kids were jumping out windows because no one knew what the f was going on. My son was pretty shook over it even though the threat was minimal.

Watch 13 reasons why and it will scary the crap out of anyone that has teenage kids.
 
Bike N Gear said:
It's just so different now. I mean, I had nuclear bomb drills where we sat under the desks at school.👍 Kid's now have active shooter drills and then get to see the aftermath of real shootings every night on the news while eating dinner. It's just business as usual for them. When my son was in HS just a few years back he said everybody knew who their school shooter would be. Thankfully it never happened, but they knew who to watch out for.
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Exactly. It's a huge mental health issue. We as a society are so focused on everyone being treated equal and kids having every single opportunity, that we overlook the fact that some kids just need to be singled out and confined/dealt with. Offensive to the kid? Yep. But it might just keep that kid from coming in and doing awful things. Everyone is just afraid and too weak to do the right thing up front.
 
mntal said:
Exactly. It's a huge mental health issue. We as a society are so focused on everyone being treated equal and kids having every single opportunity, that we overlook the fact that some kids just need to be singled out and confined/dealt with. Offensive to the kid? Yep. But it might just keep that kid from coming in and doing awful things. Everyone is just afraid and too weak to do the right thing up front.
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I find it interesting, in a discussion ultimately about 2A, that the idea of “everyone being treated equal” is a problem… and further that we want, who I would assume is a government agency to confine individuals for acts we think they might commit.
Protecting innocence is a core value of our nation, it creates risk, risk we believe is worth it, just as many believe the risk created by 2A is worth it.
I don’t think people are as good at identifying potential shooters as they think they are. The stereotype goth loner from the trench coat mafia was a grossly inaccurate portrayal of the columbine shooters, and has stuck with people. Anyone who has sat through trainings developed to prevent such events knows there is not reliable a profile.
 
Bike N Gear said:
It's just so different now. I mean, I had nuclear bomb drills where we sat under the desks at school.👍 Kid's now have active shooter drills and then get to see the aftermath of real shootings every night on the news while eating dinner. It's just business as usual for them. When my son was in HS just a few years back he said everybody knew who their school shooter would be. Thankfully it never happened, but they knew who to watch out for.
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What do you think is scarier? I remember the nuclear drill under the desks. I also really remember worrying about a nuclear war. Living in Bergen county growing up, we were very close to the city. We all figured that would be one of the first places to be hit. Nuclear war definitely something that I was afraid of until maybe middle school. Just the thought of the world blowing up.

I wonder if the kids today are more scared or less scared than I was? Active shooter drills, they don't seem to faze my kids. We had the school shut down a few years ago because of some perceived threat and my kids were just happy for the day off.
 
roc said:
What do you think is scarier? I remember the nuclear drill under the desks. I also really remember worrying about a nuclear war. Living in Bergen county growing up, we were very close to the city. We all figured that would be one of the first places to be hit. Nuclear war definitely something that I was afraid of until maybe middle school. Just the thought of the world blowing up.

I wonder if the kids today are more scared or less scared than I was? Active shooter drills, they don't seem to faze my kids. We had the school shut down a few years ago because of some perceived threat and my kids were just happy for the day off.
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I don't recall being bothered at all by those drills. Pretty sure we thought the exercise was useless, but we felt that about about many things in the 70's. Kids today have access to just so much more information. Almost half the kids have a cell phone by 10. The 24 hour, bad news is all over the place even if it's only being seen in memes they are scrolling though. I was outside playing with my friends, we were all mostly oblivious to what was going on in the world with a few exceptions.
 
1TrackMind said:
I find it interesting, in a discussion ultimately about 2A, that the idea of “everyone being treated equal” is a problem… and further that we want, who I would assume is a government agency to confine individuals for acts we think they might commit.
Protecting innocence is a core value of our nation, it creates risk, risk we believe is worth it, just as many believe the risk created by 2A is worth it.
I don’t think people are as good at identifying potential shooters as they think they are. The stereotype goth loner from the trench coat mafia was a grossly inaccurate portrayal of the columbine shooters, and has stuck with people. Anyone who has sat through trainings developed to prevent such events knows there is not reliable a profile.
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Treating everyone equal is in fact a problem - if we started to be realistic about it and singled out the problem people, we would perhaps save many innocents. It's just weakness in our society - we are soft. Someone even said above that their kids knew who the problems were - well, let's deal with it now before tragedy strikes.
 
Speaking of WOW things and school, has anyone elses kids mentioned the up tick in anti Semitism? We live in a primarily white district, something like 75%. There is a decent size jewish population, my family included. During rec basketball this year, my son plays on a team that has 4 Jewish kids in our neighborhood and both of the coaches are jewish. First game of the season some kid call my son a kike, and a fight almost breaks out. The coaches make an issue of it to the head of the league, who is African American. It quickly turned into a "it isn't as bad as the N word" discussion and was brushed off. On the heels of that we asked our son how often does this happen to which he responded, daily. OK, lets dig deeper here, come to find out that is quite and issue and multiple kids have suspended for jewish hate speech, which basically does nothing. A few jewish girls we know in the school pretty much stated it is horrible to even come to school.

The war didn't help this, but at the end of the day, this is really an issue? And then you have the protest last year, making it a topic of conversation with looking for colleges for my son. WOW.
 
Norm said:
Indeed. Anyone who is not blonde-haired and blue-eyed needs to be exterminated pronto.

Sorry but that's how that stuff starts.

Sorry but that's how that stuff starts.
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Made me think of 40 years ago, town wanted to pave our dirt road. They held a vote at town hall many showed up and we voted NO to paving the road.
The mayor stood up and said "this vote doesn't count! we didn't include the property owners that didn't show up. We will have a mailing vote, and if we have to we will only count the votes of blond haired blue eyed people! The paving road passed and us homeowners had to pay for it. WoW
 
stb222 said:
Speaking of WOW things and school, has anyone elses kids mentioned the up tick in anti Semitism? We live in a primarily white district, something like 75%. There is a decent size jewish population, my family included. During rec basketball this year, my son plays on a team that has 4 Jewish kids in our neighborhood and both of the coaches are jewish. First game of the season some kid call my son a kike, and a fight almost breaks out. The coaches make an issue of it to the head of the league, who is African American. It quickly turned into a "it isn't as bad as the N word" discussion and was brushed off. On the heels of that we asked our son how often does this happen to which he responded, daily. OK, lets dig deeper here, come to find out that is quite and issue and multiple kids have suspended for jewish hate speech, which basically does nothing. A few jewish girls we know in the school pretty much stated it is horrible to even come to school.

The war didn't help this, but at the end of the day, this is really an issue? And then you have the protest last year, making it a topic of conversation with looking for colleges for my son. WOW.
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This is sad but typical. Some of my neighbors and friends are Jewish, and they've said its definitely increased since the conflict with Hamas, especially the passive aggressive comments from people who are supposed to be their friends. I'm not Jewish, but kike to me sounds equally as offensive as the N word. Iran can pat themselves on the back, mission accomplished, this is the outcome they were hoping for.

And forget about colleges, I don't know of a college where this type of thing doesn't happen. We're going through the same thing right now with my son, and the only advice we can give him is stay far away from these things. These complex issues aren't black and white, nothing good comes out of these protests, and its an easy way to lose any athletic scholarship you may get.
 
Captain Brainstorm said:
This is sad but typical. Some of my neighbors and friends are Jewish, and they've said its definitely increased since the conflict with Hamas, especially the passive aggressive comments from people who are supposed to be their friends. I'm not Jewish, but kike to me sounds equally as offensive as the N word. Iran can pat themselves on the back, mission accomplished, this is the outcome they were hoping for.

And forget about colleges, I don't know of a college where this type of thing doesn't happen. We're going through the same thing right now with my son, and the only advice we can give him is stay far away from these things. These complex issues aren't black and white, nothing good comes out of these protests, and its an easy way to lose any athletic scholarship you may get.
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Yes, I have noted how small the protest are in general, just kind of shocking when people are chanting kill the jews when you are taking a campus tour.
 
stb222 said:
Speaking of WOW things and school, has anyone elses kids mentioned the up tick in anti Semitism? We live in a primarily white district, something like 75%. There is a decent size jewish population, my family included. During rec basketball this year, my son plays on a team that has 4 Jewish kids in our neighborhood and both of the coaches are jewish. First game of the season some kid call my son a kike, and a fight almost breaks out. The coaches make an issue of it to the head of the league, who is African American. It quickly turned into a "it isn't as bad as the N word" discussion and was brushed off. On the heels of that we asked our son how often does this happen to which he responded, daily. OK, lets dig deeper here, come to find out that is quite and issue and multiple kids have suspended for jewish hate speech, which basically does nothing. A few jewish girls we know in the school pretty much stated it is horrible to even come to school.

The war didn't help this, but at the end of the day, this is really an issue? And then you have the protest last year, making it a topic of conversation with looking for colleges for my son. WOW.
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Yeah. We're the bad guys these day. Our WOW moment. My wife made a post on LinkedIn shortly after Oct 7 about being a proud Jewish daughter of both a Jewish dad and stepfather who both fought in WW II. Almost 1700 views. 36 likes. 6 people had the courage to comment support. Numerous people have commented in person that they saw the post, but for whatever reason wouldn't show support publicly. Fun times.
 
Norm said:
Indeed. Anyone who is not blonde-haired and blue-eyed needs to be exterminated pronto.

Sorry but that's how that stuff starts.
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So providing a kid with some type of mental issue the needed care would be automatically considered eugenics? I am sure I misinterpreted your post.
 
mntal said:
Treating everyone equal is in fact a problem - if we started to be realistic about it and singled out the problem people, we would perhaps save many innocents. It's just weakness in our society - we are soft.
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Every person has ‘unfair’ advantages.

Smart people use them to their advantage.

Chasing ‘equality’ is a race to the bottom.

I don’t know about ‘singling out’ but the right path is to understand we’re all different, not try and make us all the same.
 
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